[H. PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE 2022-23 ANNUAL REPORT (INCLUDING THE TEXAS ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE REPORT (TAPR)) [Dr. Elizabeth Clark, Associate Superintendent]]

NEXT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE 2022-23 BISD TEXAS ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE REPORT CARD.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THOSE PRINCIPALS LEFT.

THEY COULD HAVE STAYED LISTENING TO ALL THIS.

DOCTOR CLARK, YOU GIVE US THE INTRODUCTION TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS.

TONIGHT DOCTOR MONICA UPHOFF IS HERE TO PRESENT THE ANNUAL REPORT, THE TAPR REPORT, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE.

AND IT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IN PUBLIC THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS FROM A VARIETY OF ASSESSMENTS.

SO, DOCTOR UPHOFF.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

WITHOUT FURTHER ADO THERE ARE EIGHT SECTIONS TO THE ANNUAL REPORT.

WE START WITH THE TAPR AND THE PDF FORM.

GO TO THE TEAM'S FINANCIAL ACTUAL REPORT, THEN DISTRICT ACCREDITATION, CAMPUS PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES, THE REPORT ON VIOLENT AND CRIMINAL INCIDENTS, STUDENT PERFORMANCE AND POST-SECONDARY PROGRESS TOWARDS BOARD ADOPTED HOUSE BILL THREE GOALS AND THEN THE 2223 GLOSSARY, BOTH IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH.

THE FIRST SECTION IS COMPILED BY TIA FOR EVERY DISTRICT AND CAMPUS, USING TEAMS AND STUDENT ASSESSMENT DATA PUBLISHED AS AGAIN AS A PDF WITH A WIDE RANGE OF PERFORMANCE ON THE COVER PAGE. IT USUALLY HAS THE DISTRICT CAMPUS NAME AND NUMBER, AND WE TYPICALLY HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY RATING, A SPECIAL EDUCATION DETERMINATION DISTINCTION DESIGNATIONS, AND ASVAB.

ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT STATUS OF ACCOUNTABILITY, WE DO NOT HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY RATING THE SPECIAL EDUCATION DETERMINATION STATUS OR THE DISTINCTION DESIGNATIONS AT THIS TIME.

UNDER THE STAR PERFORMANCE, WHICH WE HAVE THREE PERFORMANCE LEVELS APPROACHES, MEETS, AND MASTERS.

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THESE ARE REPORTED FOR EACH GRADE AND SUBJECT THREE THROUGH EIGHT AND EOCS, INCLUDING MEETS AND MASTERS GOING ON TO SCHOOL.

PROGRESS WITH ANNUAL GROWTH ACCELERATED LEARNING, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL PIECE THIS YEAR, AND THEN ACADEMIC GROWTH, WHICH WAS A COMBINATION OF ANNUAL GROWTH AND ACCELERATED LEARNING, IS NOT REPORTED THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES.

ON TO BILINGUAL EDUCATION AND ESL.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE DESEGREGATION OF THE DATA BY THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. STAAR PERFORMANCE IS ALSO REPORTED OUT BY THESE PROGRAMS, ALONG WITH ANNUAL GROWTH AND ACCELERATED LEARNING PARTICIPATION ON ASSESSMENTS INCLUDED IN ACCOUNTABILITY NOT INCLUDED IN ACCOUNTABILITY, MOBILITY NOT TESTED, ETC.

AND THAT IS REPORTED OUT BY TEST SUBJECTS, AREA AND ACCELERATED TESTERS.

CCMR COMPONENT TALKS ABOUT THE GRADUATES COLLEGE CAREER.

EXCUSE ME, COLLEGE READY AND THE CAREER MILITARY READY.

AND THEN WITHIN THE CCMR COMPONENT WE HAVE THE TSI ASSESSMENT RESULTS COMPLETED AND RECEIVED COLLEGE PREP COURSES, AP, IB, SAT, ACT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE POST-SECONDARY INDICATORS FROM THE TEXAS INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION.

AND THAT IS LAGGING DATA.

WE GO ON TO STUDENT INFORMATION REGARDING ENROLLMENT STAFF INFORMATION AND THEN PROGRAM INFORMATION, STUDENT ENROLLMENT, AND THEN TEACHERS BY THOSE PROGRAMS. MOVING ON TO SECTION TWO, WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL ACTUAL REPORTS FOR BOTH THE DISTRICT AND THE CAMPUS, THE MOST RECENT YEAR BEING 21-22 ONTO THE DISTRICT ACCREDITATION STATUS.

THERE ARE FOUR CATEGORIES OR STATUSES THAT ONE COULD HAVE, AND WE ARE AT ACCREDITED.

CAMPUS PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES.

EACH CAMPUS HAS DEVELOPED AND IS IMPLEMENTING A CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS REQUIRED BY TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 11.253, AND WE DO FORMATIVE REVIEWS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS THAT SHOWS THE PROGRESS TOWARDS THE PERFORMANCE WITHIN THOSE OBJECTIVES.

SECTION FIVE IS A REPORT ON VIOLENT AND CRIMINAL INCIDENTS REPORTS.

AGAIN, TEXAS EDUCATION CODE SECTION 39.306 REQUIRES EACH DISTRICT TO PUBLISH A REPORT BY CAMPUS, AND THESE ARE REPORTED AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND NOT DISTINGUISH ANY STUDENTS BECAUSE OF FERPA.

THEN STUDENT PERFORMANCE IN THE POST SECONDARY INSTITUTIONS.

THIS IS TEXAS EDUCATION CODE, SECTION 39.306.

AND THIS IS FROM THE TEXAS HIGHER EDUCATION COORDINATING BOARD.

AND AGAIN THIS IS LAGGING DATA.

SO THIS WILL BE BASED ON THE 20-21 HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES.

SECTION SEVEN IS THE PROGRESS TOWARDS MEETING.

THE BOARD ADOPTED HOUSE BILL THREE GOALS, WHICH WE DID IN THE SEPTEMBER BOARD MEETING.

AND THE LAST PART IS THE GLOSSARY, BOTH IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

IN ADDITION TO THIS PRESENTATION, I'VE INCLUDED LINKS TO THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE NOTED WITHIN THE PRESENTATION AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ACCESS THIS, IT WILL BE ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE.

EXCUSE ME IN TWO WEEKS.

PAPER COPIES ARE AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE AND H CAMPUS, AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS INCLUDED.

I THINK I BROKE MY RECORD.

I'M DOING THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU DOCTOR UPHOFF.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR DOCTOR UPHOFF WHILE SHE'S HERE? A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.

THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

I JUST I CAN'T GO WITHOUT SAYING THAT I, IN MY OPINION, AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND ASSESSMENT INFORMATION AND WHAT IS REQUIRED AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO DO THIS, IT IS MORE THAN WRITING A QUANTITATIVE DISSERTATION ON ANY GIVEN YEAR.

AND I HAVE TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE TO HAVE DOCTOR UPHOFF LEADING THIS DEPARTMENT AND LEADING OUR DISTRICT.

AND FRANKLY A LEADER IN THE STATE SHE IS A RESOURCE FOR MANY OTHERS.

AND WE ARE I AM SO PROUD OF THE WORK THAT SHE DOES, AND WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS UNDERSTANDABLE FOR THE REST OF US.

SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

AND BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO AND TEACHING US EVERY DAY.

SO I FEEL GOOD. I'VE DONE A QUANTITATIVE STUDY, SO I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT TOO.

I'M SURE YOU HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT'S NOW TIME TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS REPORT.

IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK CONCERNING THIS REPORT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

AS THERE ARE NO PERSONS PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK CONCERNING THIS HEARING.

I DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO PRESENTATIONS TO THE BOARD.

[I.1. Architect Update]

IT'LL BE ITEM I ONE, ARCHITECT UPDATE.

MISS BOWMAN, YOU HAVE AN INTRODUCTION FOR US THERE? YES, SIR, I DO. SO WE HAVE HKS ARCHITECTS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.

WE HAVE WAYNE RONAUD THAT'S HERE.

AND I BELIEVE DOUG CARNEY IS GOING TO DO OUR OVERVIEW TONIGHT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE SCOTT NIVEN WHO IS OUR BOND CONSULTANT HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

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PRESIDENT DAVIS BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

DOCTOR STINSON.

WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND UPDATE YOU ON THREE OF THE PROJECTS TONIGHT.

THE FIRST IS DE SMITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET THE SITE PERMIT A FEW WEEKS AGO.

AND IF YOU'VE DRIVEN AROUND, THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOVING DIRT AROUND THERE, GETTING THE BUILDING PAD PREPPED AND ARE ABOUT TO GET UNDERWAY WITH SOME OF THE UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE AND DETENTION SYSTEMS. SO YOU'VE ACTUALLY GOT SOME SOME MOVEMENT OUT THERE ON SITE.

A LOT OF THE WORK SO FAR HAS BEEN KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENES MATERIAL SUBMITTALS AND SHOP DRAWINGS, THINGS LIKE CONCRETE, STRUCTURAL STEEL, HVAC, ELECTRICAL THINGS THAT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FROM A TIMING SCHEDULE TO GET OUT TO SITES AND TO GET ORDERED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED ALL THOSE SUBMITTALS, HAVE THOSE ORDERED.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THAT WORK DONE AS WELL SO THAT THAT MATERIAL IS OUT THERE WHEN, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION PART OF IT'S NEEDED AND THE CONSTRUCTION IS ON SCHEDULE.

WE'RE KIND OF MOVING FORWARD AND OVER THE NEXT MONTH, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF A LOT MORE GOING OUT THERE ON SITE.

MOVING TO HALTOM HIGH SCHOOL.

WE TOOK BIDS ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

LEE LEWIS TOOK BIDS.

WE RECEIVED GREAT COVERAGE, SIMILAR TO THE COVERAGE THAT WE RECEIVED ON DE SMITH AND GOT SOME REALLY GOOD PRICING BACK.

WE HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED OF ABOUT 26.85 MILLION.

WE'RE ALREADY UNDER THAT AMOUNT.

THERE'S STILL A COUPLE OF SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WERE STILL WORKING ON SPECIFICALLY ROOFING AND A COUPLE OF OTHER ONES THAT WE STILL FEEL LIKE WE CAN KIND OF PULL THE PRICE DOWN A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE WE FINALIZE KIND OF A GMP TO KIND OF PRESENT TO YOU GUYS.

BUT WE'LL BE PROBABLY FINISHING THAT UP HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.

WE'RE ALSO GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS ON THAT SCHOOL.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CITY DOING KIND OF BUILDING SAFETY, FIRE SAFETY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING STORM SHELTER REVIEW, ACCESSIBILITY REVIEW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE ON ALL THAT.

SO THAT'S PROGRESSING AS WELL.

AND THEN LEE LEWIS IS KIND OF READY TO MOBILIZE KIND OF ONCE THIS REVIEW, REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS CAN TAKES PLACE.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE KIND OF READY TO GET THAT OUT ON THE SITE AND GET GOING ON CONSTRUCTION THERE AS WELL.

AND THEN THE THIRD PROJECT IS A ROOFING PROJECT FOR JOHN SPICER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, KT THOMAS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, NORTH RIDGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND WALKER CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE DID A CSP PROCESS FOR THAT.

WE RECEIVED REALLY GREAT BIDS ON THAT.

WE HAD ABOUT TEN ROOFERS KIND OF COME IN AND AND GIVE PRICING ON THAT.

THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS ARE JUST REDOING THE ROOFING ON THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS, AND WE WERE REALLY EXCITED.

THE PRICING THAT WE GOT BACK, THE INITIAL BUDGET WAS ABOUT 7 TO $8 MILLION, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY RIGHT AROUND A $4 MILLION LEVEL.

SO WE GOT FANTASTIC PRICING ON THAT, HAD REALLY GOOD COVERAGE ON THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROVING TWO CONTRACTORS TO DO TWO SCHOOLS EACH SO THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH TIME OVER THE SUMMER TO KIND OF GET THOSE DONE INSTEAD OF GIVING IT ALL TO ONE, AND REALLY KIND OF WORRYING ABOUT KIND OF THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE SUMMER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROVING TWO CONTRACTORS TO DO THOSE.

SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE THERE AS WELL.

AND THAT'S THE UPDATE FOR THOSE THREE PROJECTS.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR DOUG? MISTER TOLBERT, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US IN THE FUTURE ON WHY WE'RE GETTING SOME GOOD PRICING? I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT.

A LOT OF IT IS KIND OF THE UPFRONT WORK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF HAVE A BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DISTRICT AND WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, THAT'S REALLY PROACTIVE.

YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF THE ISSUES DURING THE DOCUMENTATION PHASE, SO THAT WHEN YOU PUT OUT THE SET OF DOCUMENTS, IT'S REALLY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTORS ARE LOOKING AT IT, THEY'RE LIKING WHAT THEY'RE SEEING.

AND THEN LEE LEWIS IS JUST OUT THERE MAKING PHONE CALLS, GETTING PEOPLE EXCITED, KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.

IF YOU LOOKED AT LIKE THE TOP 15 OR 20 SUBCONTRACTORS PRICE WISE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT DIFFERENT BIDDERS ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE SCOPES, EXCEPT MAYBE 1 OR 2.

AND WHEN YOU CAN DO THAT, THAT PRICE KEEPS COMING DOWN.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR BOTH THE SMITH AND HALTOM HIGH SCHOOL.

SO WE'RE TRULY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

GREAT. MISTER KUNKEL, WOULD YOU SAY THAT SO FAR THE PROCESS OF THE CITY'S GIVING APPROVALS AND ALL OF THAT AND THEN THE MATERIALS GETTING THERE, IS IT BEEN ABOUT AS EXPECTED? HAS THERE BEEN MORE DELAYS THAN YOU EXPECTED OR.

IT'S I THINK THE ONE THE ONE ISSUE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY FOR DE SMITH WAS THE UNDERGROUND DETENTION SYSTEM.

WE'VE WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY.

IT'S A NEW SYSTEM FOR THE CITY.

SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH THERE.

BUT WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE NOW.

THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED AND AND THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THE PROCESS.

SO WE'RE WE'RE GOOD TO GO THERE.

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BUT FROM ALL THE OTHER REGULATORY.

STANDPOINTS. IT'S BEEN PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

AND THEN WE WE FROM A MATERIAL ORDERING STANDPOINT, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH LEE LEWIS.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT. WHEN WE GET GOING, LET'S GET THESE SUBMITTALS IN THE HOUSE SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW THEM, GET THEM APPROVED SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE THINGS OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO, SO THAT FIRST MONTH, KIND OF THAT ONCE ONCE JANUARY HIT KIND OF MOST OF JANUARY, WE GOT 810 SUBMITTALS IN ON THOSE LONG LEAD ITEMS. AND WE TURNED THOSE AROUND SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE ORDERED.

SO THAT'S BEEN A REALLY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE THERE TOO.

YOU KNOW, AT ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, SWITCH GEARS WERE A LONG LEAD ITEM AND AND THE AC UNITS I WAS WORKING AT A JOB UP IN PROSPER IN THE PARKING LOT WAS FULL OF ABOUT 100 AC UNITS, AND THEY WERE JUST IN THE STEEL PHASE, GETTING THEM THERE ON TIME, READY TO HAVE LATER.

IT'S REALLY CRITICAL. AND YOU ARE DOING THAT.

AND SCOTT AND OTHERS PASSED ON TO LEE LEWIS.

THEY'RE DOING MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED AS FAR AS SAVING US MONEY, BUT ALSO STILL GIVING US A GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT.

THEY HAVE REALLY BEEN PROACTIVE WITH WITH DOING THAT.

THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER TO WORK WITH DURING THE PROCESS, BOTH KIND OF PRE-CONSTRUCTION AND THIS POST BID PROCESS.

THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. THEY'VE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER WITH US.

THIS WAS NEW FOR US, YOU KNOW, WITH CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

AND IT'S WORKED OUT WELL.

AND WITH DOCTOR NIVEN'S HELP LEADING THE CHARGE TOO, IT'S BEEN A IT'S WORKING.

ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[J.1. Birdville ISD Proposed Local Policy Update Affecting Local Policy Listed (First Reading) [Skip Baskerville, Associate Superintendent & Dr. Elizabeth Clark, Associate Superintendent]]

THE FIRST ONE IS BISD PROPOSED LOCAL POLICY UPDATE AFFECTING LOCAL POLICY.

I SEE DOCTOR CLARK AND MR. BASKERVILLE YOU'RE UP.

THANK YOU.

I DO WANT TO ASK MY FRIEND SKIP BASKERVILLE TO COME UP HERE BECAUSE HE IS THE ONE THAT IS REALLY THE POLICY GURU AND IS OVER GOVERNANCE.

WE HAVE WORKED FOR MONTHS ON MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR A POLICY CHANGE AND ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE MISS LEANNE CARROLL, WHO HAS ASSISTED US GREATLY BECAUSE SHE REALLY DOES A LOT OF WORK.

AND IT'S BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR GRADUATES THEIR GPA IS CALCULATED CORRECTLY AND THAT ALL OF OUR SENIORS COMPLETE THEIR GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS ON TIME AND, AND WITH THEIR CORRECT GPA.

SO THAT IS A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES REALLY UNHERALDED.

AND IT IS TEDIOUS WORK.

AND IT'S MOST IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT MAKE MISTAKES ON IT.

SO TO REVIEW THIS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS IS, OF COURSE ARE REALLY TWOFOLD.

AND I THINK THE, THE BIG IMPETUS, THOUGH, IN SOMETHING THAT IS STILL UNFOLDING AS WE SPEAK, IS THE WATERSHED PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND HOUSE BILL EIGHT AND THE FACT THAT IT HAS MADE DUAL CREDIT COURSEWORK MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS BY WAIVING THE COST OF A DUAL CREDIT COURSES.

AND AND IN THE PAST WE HAVE ALWAYS STUDENTS HAVE HAD TO PAY FOR THOSE.

AND SO NOW WITH THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION THE STATE HAS REALLY PLACED AN EMPHASIS ON ON THE IMPORTANCE OF OF THE DUAL CREDIT.

AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TO SEE IS INSTEAD OF A PRE-K 12 SYSTEM, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BECOME A PRE-K 14. AND THEY'RE SEEING THAT NOW DUAL CREDIT IS EXTENDING THE, THE EXPERIENCE OF COLLEGE INTO HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT WE'RE AND THE GOAL IS REALLY WANTING OUR, OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO EXIT HIGH SCHOOL WITH COLLEGE CREDIT IN THEIR HAND.

AND SO THIS THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS, IS REALLY A WATERSHED PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

DOCTOR CLARK, I THINK YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT POINT WITH THAT.

AND I HAVEN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT THAT WAY IN TERMS OF PRE-K 14.

BUT I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT THAT THAT'S THAT'S ON POINT, BECAUSE THAT I THINK THAT'S THAT IS THAT IS THE WORLD NOW GIVEN HOUSE BILL EIGHT BECAUSE THAT HAS REALLY TAKEN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND INTEGRATED IT WITH HIGH SCHOOL.

AND I SHE'S EXACTLY RIGHT IN SAYING THIS IS A GAME CHANGER FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS.

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AND I THINK NOW IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO PROPEL THE FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITIES INTO A DIFFERENT MAYBE A DIFFERENT CADENCE BECAUSE STUDENTS AREN'T COMING TO THEM WITH ZERO HOURS ANY LONGER.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY BE COMING TO THEM WITH 1 TO 2 YEARS.

AND I THINK NOW TODAY AS STUDENTS GRADUATE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT AS AN ANOMALY OR UNEXPECTED, BUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BECOME A NORM BECAUSE OF HOUSE BILL EIGHT, WHICH IN TURN WILL CHANGE THE, THE LANDSCAPE OF HIGHER ED, BECAUSE NO LONGER WILL THEY BE LOOKING AT STUDENTS NEEDING FOUR YEARS FOR A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, BUT ACTUALLY ONLY 2 OR 3, WHICH WILL IN TURN CHANGE HIGHER, HIGHER ED AS WELL.

SO POST POST BACCALAUREATE DEGREE PROGRAMS AS WELL.

SO I THINK SHE'S SHE SAYS WATERSHED.

AND THAT IS TRULY A CORRECT TERM.

IT'S GOING TO CHANGE NOT ONLY OUR LANDSCAPE BUT HIGHER ED AND, AND THE RESEARCH IS SHOWING THAT STUDENTS WHO COME TO A UNIVERSITY SYSTEM LIKE AN A&M OR A UT, THAT WHEN THEY COME WITH AN ASSOCIATE'S THEN THEY ARE THE ONES THAT GRADUATE MORE SO THAN THE KIDS THAT START IMMEDIATELY WITH ZERO COLLEGE CREDIT HOURS.

SO THE OTHER PIECE OF THE OTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IS OUR ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND DOCTOR UPHOFF IN HER EXPLANATION OF THE TAPER, THE CCMR COLLEGE CAREER, MILITARY.

READINESS. HIGH SCHOOLS ARE NOW BEING HELD VERY ACCOUNTABLE FOR HAVING STUDENTS READY TO EXIT BEING COLLEGE CAREER MILITARY READY.

AND THEY HAVE PUT CERTAIN INDICATORS IN THAT NOW ARE CALCULATED AND WOVEN INTO THEIR ACCOUNTABILITY RATING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO COLLEGE COURSEWORK AND MEETING COLLEGE ENTRANCE EXAM REQUIREMENTS ARE A CRITICAL COMPONENTS AS WELL AS CTE CERTIFICATIONS.

AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING A LOT ABOUT P-TECH, WHICH IS THE A WAY FOR STUDENTS TO GET AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE THROUGH OUR BECHTEL AND SCHOOLS LIKE THAT.

SO ALL OF THESE, THESE TWO ELEMENTS ARE REALLY HAVE HAVE CHANGED OUR LANDSCAPE, AS DOCTOR STINSON ALLUDED TO.

AND, AND IT'S REALLY CAUSED US TO PAUSE AND ASK, WHAT IS THE REAL GOAL AND, AND THE WAY WE'VE WE'VE KIND OF LANDED IS THAT THE REAL GOAL IS TO MEET THE PORTRAIT OF A GRADUATE.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, IT'S AN EMPOWERED LEARNER, A SOMEONE THAT CAN BE GLOBALLY COMPETITIVE, SOMEONE THAT WALKS OUT WITH ENTREPRENEURSHIP EXPERIENCE.

SO THOSE, THOSE ELEMENTS IN OUR PORTRAIT OF A GRADUATE REALLY FEED INTO THIS.

AND, AND WE ARE NOW WANTING TO SEE AS MANY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WALK OUT THE DOOR HAVING SOMETHING IN THEIR HAND THAT MAKES THEM COLLEGE READY, MILITARY READY, OR CAREER READY.

SO THAT'S A CERTIFICATION.

THAT'S AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE.

OR IT'S AT LEAST HAVING WALKING OUT WITH 15 OR MORE COLLEGE CREDIT HOURS.

SO THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE.

AND THEN WHEN TCC SAID THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW OUR STUDENTS TO GO TO THROUGH DUAL CREDIT EXPERIENCES AT NO COST, THEN THAT REALLY WAS A GAME CHANGER.

AND SO THAT REALLY HAS PROMPTED US TO MAKE THIS RECOMMENDED CHANGE.

SO IN ESSENCE SKIP, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS OR.

YES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOCTOR CLARK AND LEANNE AND A LOT OF FOLKS IN OUR DISTRICT, MR. SIMMONS AND, AND OTHERS IS ADDRESS ADDRESSING HOW THAT CHANGES THE WEIGHTS AND HOW YOU CALCULATE GPA IS FORMULATING, MAKING IT EQUAL FOR AP AND DUAL TO STAND TOGETHER AND OFFER THE THE CHANGES THAT HOUSE BILL EIGHT HAS AFFORDED US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING OUR STUDENTS A FAIR SHOT AT WHATEVER RECOGNITION THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO NOT PENALIZING ANY GROUP, BUT NOT ALL, BUT ALSO NOT GIVING AN

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ADVANTAGE TO ANOTHER.

SO THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT HAVE BEEN THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED HERE AS A PROPOSED CHANGES, CHANGE THE WEIGHTS OF DUAL CREDIT COURSES TO EQUAL THAT OF ADVANCED PLACE, PLACE, EXCUSE ME.

PLACEMENT COURSEWORK DESIGNATE WHEN THE DISTRICT WOULD CALCULATE CLASS RANK TO THE END OF THE FIRST SEMESTER INSTEAD OF THE THIRD NINE WEEKS, AND SPECIFY THAT STUDENTS WHO ATTEND THE CAB WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR VALEDICTORIAN.

SALUTATORIAN. AS A HALTOM HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE, NOT TO PENALIZE THOSE STUDENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THERE.

WE HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL WITHIN A HIGH SCHOOL.

SO WE WE HAVE THIS WAVE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BALANCE THOSE THAT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE CAB BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S A SELECTIVE PROCESS.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THAT ADVANTAGE BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SELECTED TO BE IN THE CAB TO MAKE IT A DISADVANTAGE TO THAT, TO THE HALTOM HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT THAT'S ZONED TO GO THERE.

SO THAT AND HE'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

THAT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION.

AND WE'RE LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF KIDS THAT WE CAN TAKE IN A COLLEGIATE ACADEMY.

SO IF WE CAN ONLY TAKE 60 TO 65 STUDENTS EVERY YEAR AND YOU'RE SELECTED THROUGH A LOTTERY BECAUSE YOU MEET THE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE HAS SPECIFIED FOR HAVING AN EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ABSOLUTELY GRADUATE WITH AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE THEY HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE A WEIGHTED ADVANTAGE.

SO BY MAKING IT EQUAL YOU DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE HALTOM HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO COULDN'T GO TO THE CAB BECAUSE THEY THEY ONE DON'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR AN EARLY.

COLLEGE, HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE SELECTED THROUGH A LOTTERY ANYWAY.

SO THAT THAT IS THE UNIQUE SITUATION FOR HALTOM.

WE BROUGHT TOGETHER WE WANTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO A FOCUS GROUP AROUND THESE FOUR QUESTIONS. AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO ASK, OH, HOW DO WE ASSIST STAFF AND PARENTS AND STUDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF HOUSE BILL EIGHT AND ALSO COLLEGE AND CAREER MILITARY READINESS? WE HAVE A LOT OF PARENTS WHO ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS.

WE HAVE STAFF WHO DO DO NOT UNDERSTAND CCMR AND HOW YOU ACTUALLY EARN THAT, AND THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT THE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLEGE COURSEWORK WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO YOU YOU NEED TO START EARLY AND, AND STUDENTS IN ELEMENTARY, WE HAVE REALLY STARTED THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR TAKING KIDS TO THE BECHDEL BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE A VISION OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THIS DISTRICT.

WE HAVE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THE BECHDEL COULD BE IF IF WE DON'T TAKE START TAKING STUDENTS THROUGH THERE AND SHOWING THEM ALL THE CERTIFICATIONS, IF THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES THAT THEY HAVE THROUGH DUAL CREDIT AND OUR AP COURSEWORK, THEN THEY MAY NOT SEE THEMSELVES AS CANDIDATES FOR THOSE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES.

SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT DATA DO WE NEED TO USE TO HELP GUIDE STUDENTS TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES.

AND WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT AP OR DUAL CREDIT WE'RE NOT SAYING ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

WHAT WE'RE REALLY SAYING IS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE A BLEND.

THERE'S A THERE'S A TIME WHEN YOU NEED TO TAKE AP.

THERE'S A TIME WHEN YOU NEED TO TAKE DUAL CREDIT.

SO BUT WHAT DO YOU NEED TO USE AS A PARENT TO ADVISE YOUR YOUR CHILD, YOUR STUDENT? WHAT DO WHAT DO TEACHERS AND COUNSELORS NEED TO USE? SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE.

AND THEN HOW I HATE TO JUMP IN, BUT WHY IS IT WHY IS ANYBODY GOING TO TAKE AP COURSES? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD WHAT WHY WOULD ANYBODY TAKE AP COURSES AT THIS POINT? I MEAN, WHY WOULD THEY.

YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW ANY KID THAT WOULD TAKE AN AP COURSE AGAIN.

OH WELL THERE ARE AP COURSES WE OFFER WAY WE HAVE ABOUT 25 TO 30 AP COURSES.

THAT AND THEN COLLEGES.

STILL, IF YOU'RE GOING OUT OF STATE AN AP COURSE IS VERY, VERY VALUABLE IF YOU'RE AND, AND IF YOU ARE GOING INTO ENGINEERING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AP STILL TRANSLATES VERY VERY IMPORTANTLY.

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SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE I THINK WHAT JOE'S GETTING AT, I DON'T THINK SO, IS I, I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO WEIGH AP AND DUAL CREDIT THE SAME, AND THE STATE IS GOING TO UNDERWRITE THEIR DUAL CREDIT AND PAY FOR IT FOR THEM, THEN WHY WOULD ANY STUDENT PAY OUT OF POCKET TO TAKE AN AP TEST WITH DUAL CREDIT BEING WEIGHTED THE SAME? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IS THAT FAIR FOR ME TO SAY THAT? AND ON THE COME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THREE OR BETTER ON YOUR ON YOUR AP TEST, WHEN YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PASS THE DUAL CREDIT, YOU'VE GOT COLLEGE CREDIT.

WELL IT ALSO JOE, I THINK BECAUSE I'M GOING THROUGH THIS AND I KNOW YOU HAVE RECENTLY GONE THROUGH THIS AS WELL WITH THE GRADUATE.

AND I'M GOING THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR.

MANY OF THE UNIVERSITIES ARE DO LOOK AT THE TRANSCRIPT TO SEE HOW MANY AP COURSES AND WHAT AP COURSES YOU TOOK, ESPECIALLY IF KIDS ARE APPLYING TO HONORS PROGRAMS AT THE UNIVERSITIES, ESPECIALLY AT THE TIER ONE UNIVERSITIES.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST JUST POSITING OUT THERE THAT MOST KIDS WANT TO BE IN THE TOP 12.

YEAH. AND AND THAT'S ALL GREAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND THERE MAY BE SOME THAT PLAYS TOO, BUT MOST OF THEM JUST WANT TO BE TOP 12.

AND I THINK THAT KIND OF MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THROUGH OUR COUNSELING DEPARTMENT, WHAT WHAT UNIVERSITIES ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THEIR, THEIR CLASS RANK HAS BECOME IMPORTANT TO THEM.

BUT BUT THIS WON'T HURT THEM.

WELL, I THINK FOR ME, THAT'S THE PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WE DID WITH THE CCMR. I I'LL BE TOTALLY HONEST WITH YOU.

I DON'T LIKE WEIGHTING THEM THE SAME.

I THINK AP IS CLEARLY BETTER THAN DUAL CREDIT.

IT'S MORE RIGOROUS.

AND I THINK KIDS THAT TAKE AP SHOULD BE WEIGHTED HIGHER THAN THE KIDS THAT TAKE DUAL CREDIT.

WELL, I'LL JUST I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE ARE KIDS THAT WOULD THAT IF YOU, YOU DON'T WANT.

PUT A BARRIER THERE EITHER THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM TAKING A DUAL.

STATE'S KIND OF DONE WITH THIS.

THIS IS A GOOD DEAL. AND WE SHOULD PUSH OUR KIDS TO DO THIS IF THEY GOT SOMETHING FREE, I GUESS, TAKE IT.

BUT WHAT THE STATE'S DONE BY UNDERWRITING COLLEGE CREDITS IS NOW, THEY'VE NOT THEY'VE NOW REDUCED THE SUPPLY OF COLLEGE CREDITS BECAUSE THEY GO IN WITH THESE FREE CREDITS RIGHT.

MORE KIDS ARE GOING TO POST SECONDARY EDUCATION.

SO THERE'S MORE DEMAND WHEN YOU DECREASE SUPPLY AND INCREASE DEMAND.

NO COLLEGE IS IN THE BUSINESS OF SAVING ANYBODY ANY MONEY, RIGHT? I'VE GOT A KID AND I'VE GOT TWO OF THEM ABOUT TO BE IN THERE.

I'M NOT SAVING ANY MONEY.

SO WHAT I ENVISION IS GOING TO HAPPEN DUE TO HOUSE BILL A OVER THE NEXT 2 TO 5 YEARS, IS THAT THE COST OF A COLLEGE CREDIT IS GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE THE STATE IS NOW UNDERWRITTEN FREE COLLEGE CREDITS THROUGH DUAL CREDIT.

AND THAT'S NOT FOR US TO WORRY ABOUT AT A LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL, BECAUSE WE CAN'T HELP WHAT A&M AND UT AND THOSE GUYS DO.

I GET IT. BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET THAT THE COST OF A COLLEGE CREDIT WILL NOW INCREASE BECAUSE THE STATE IS NOW GIVING AWAY FREE COLLEGE CREDITS.

SO I COME I COME AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT AP IS JUST MORE RIGOROUS.

AND I THINK THE KIDS THAT CHALLENGE THEMSELVES WITH AP SHOULD GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT.

WHAT IS IT, 1.15 AND DUAL CREDITS 1.05? YES, SIR. YES. AND THAT'S JUST THAT'S MY ARGUMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE.

I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BECAUSE I, I'M COMING AT THIS FROM A DAD THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TWO IN COLLEGE AND.

. WELL, I THINK THERE ARE SOME AP COURSES THAT ARE MORE RIGOROUS.

BUT THEN I THINK THERE THAT THAT THERE ARE SOME THAT MAY NOT BE AS RIGOROUS AS SOME OF THE DUAL CREDIT.

SO IT DEPENDS.

IT DEPENDS. AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

MY, AS A PERSONALLY AS A PARENT, MY TWO OF MY CHILDREN HAVE TAKEN A BLEND.

AND DEFINITELY SOME OF THE DUAL CREDIT COURSEWORK WAS EXTREMELY HARDER THAN THE AP COURSEWORK AND VICE VERSA.

LIKE DOCTOR CLARK SAID, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SUBJECT MATTER.

WELL, AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON HOW MUCH OVERLAP IS THERE BETWEEN AP AND DUAL CREDIT AS FAR AS THE COURSES THAT ARE OFFERED? I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE THE EXACT SAME COURSES OVERLAP THAT IF THEY'RE GOING INTO ONE FIELD, MAYBE THEY WOULD TAKE AB BECAUSE IT'S NOT OFFERED IN DUAL CREDIT OR VICE VERSA.

IS THAT? YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? HI. OKAY.

SO OVERLAPPING ENGLISH THREE OR ENGLISH FOUR WOULD OVERLAP.

WE HAVE US GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE ECONOMICS.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CLASSES THAT WOULD NOT? AS FAR AS AP LIKE WE HAVE..

WE CAN GET IN AP THAT YOU WILL NOT.

OKAY. SO NOW WE DO HAVE STATS THAT HALTOM HIGH SCHOOL DUAL CREDIT HOWEVER, WE'VE GOT AP PSYCHOLOGY, WE'VE GOT AP ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS, WE'VE GOT AP PHYSICS ONE, AP PHYSICS TWO, AP PHYSICS C, WE HAVE AP AND ALMOST EVERY ONE OF OUR LANGUAGES. WHEN IT GETS TO AT LEAST FOUR, LEVEL FOUR..

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AND WE DON'T HAVE THOSE IN DUAL CREDIT? NO, NO, NO.. THAT WOULD BE A REASON IF THEY'RE GOING INTO A FIELD LIKE THAT.

CURRENTLY AP WE ALSO HAVE AP BIOLOGY, AP CHEMISTRY.

YOU WERE TALKING OVER ANSWER NOT CORRECTLY.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM.

YEAH, IT DOESN'T JOE.

BUT ALSO I THINK THAT AND THERE'S NO WAY TO PREDICT THE TIME FRAME, BUT IT'S IT WOULD TAKE YEARS TO BUILD THAT BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE BECOME CERTIFIED TO TEACH DUAL CREDIT IN THOSE AREAS.

AND WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THAT.

AND SO THAT'S THAT THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WOULD TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS TO OCCUR.

TO GET TO THAT SAME LEVEL.

MR. DILKS, WHAT IF JOE'S, MATT'S PREDICTION COME TRUE? WE HAVE A MASS EXODUS FROM AP TO DUAL CREDIT.

HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE RATINGS OF OUR DISTRICT? WILL THAT AFFECT IT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM? NO, BECAUSE THE AND THE RATING, THE CCMR IS GOING TO BE BASED UPON, NOT A DISTINCTION BETWEEN AP AND DUAL.

IT'S COLLEGE LEVEL.

SO THE MORE STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE TAKING COLLEGE LEVEL COURSEWORK THAT SHOULD HELP US WITH OUR CCMR. SO YEAH, BASICALLY I'M SORRY.

NO, THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE AN ASSET TO OUR ACCOUNTABILITY.

IT IS BECAUSE WHEN A KID PASSES ONE DUAL CREDIT CLASS, THEY ALREADY GET THEIR CCMR POINT.

SO TO BE ABLE TO GET A CCMR POINT WITH AP, THEY HAVE TO PASS THE AP EXAM.

BUT BUT THAT GOES BACK TO DOCTOR CLARK'S ORIGINAL STATEMENT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO TRY TO IMPROVE THIS.

AND THEN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HB EIGHT CAME OUT.

AND SO THE POINT IS, IS THAT NOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, A STUDENT IS GOING TO SAY, OH, I DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

AND I'M GONNA GET MOM AND DAD ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS COLLEGE CLASS ONCE I GO, I, I DON'T THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE AP VERSUS DUAL CREDIT, BUT IT THAT'S JUST AS A BASIC PROPOSITION THAT A LOT MORE STUDENTS SHOULD WANT TO TAKE IT NOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

AND IF THEY PASS IT, THEY HAVE THE COLLEGE DEGREE IN A DUAL CREDIT.

THAT'S NOT TRUE OF AP.

YOU CAN DO. THERE ARE TONS OF EXAMPLES.

DOCTOR BROWN HIS ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS HAD IT WAS HIS DAUGHTER.

YEAH, YEAH, ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS HAD CROSSED THE BOARD.

YOU KNOW, A'S IN AP AND THEN IT COULDN'T, COULDN'T PASS THE TEST.

AND MY DAUGHTER DID THAT, TOO.

RIGHT. AND ANYWAY, SO THERE'S NO YOU CAN PASS THE COURSE AND GET A'S AND THEN NOT GET IT IN AP.

THERE'S A LOT OF RISK AT AP, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY A STUDENT, I'M TELLING YOU, THERE MAY BE STUDENTS THAT THINK TO THE POINT YOU ARE.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE STUDENTS, SOME OF THEM ARE STANDING HERE TONIGHT.

THEY ARE TRYING TO GET IN THAT TOP 12.

THAT'S JUST THE MAGIC. THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I'M 15.

IF THERE'S ANY WAY I CAN MOVE UP, I THINK THAT KID'S NOT DOING VERY WELL.

MAYBE I CAN PUSH UP.

THAT'S JUST ALL THEY TALK ABOUT.

AND THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT, WELL, MAYBE THIS WILL GET ME IN AN ENGINEERING PROGRAM AT HARVARD OR SOMETHING.

WELL, AND, MR. TOLBERT, AS YOU KNOW, THOSE KIDS WHO HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE AT THEIR TOP OF THEIR CLASS, THEY'VE TAKEN AS MANY AP CLASSES AS THEY COULD BECAUSE THEY WERE RANKED 1.15.

RIGHT. THE WAITING.

AND SO BEING A COUNSELOR FOR ALL MY YEARS BEING A COUNSELOR, THERE ARE KIDS THAT COULD SIT IN FRONT OF ME THAT I THOUGHT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF TAKING DUAL CREDIT.

BUT COULD NOT CONVINCE A KID THAT WANTED TO BE, YOU KNOW, HOW TO PLAN THIS EVER SINCE THEY WERE IN ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL UP TO THIS POINT, YOU COULDN'T CONVINCE THEM THAT GOING THE DUAL CREDIT ROUTE WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM FOR SOME KIDS AP YES, LIKE IF THEY'RE GOING INTO THE MEDICAL PROFESSION, YOU KNOW, WE'D WANT THEM TO TAKE AP BIOLOGY AND GO THAT ROUTE.

WHICH RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE DUAL CREDIT.

AND BIOLOGY, BUT TO THIS POINT, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AP.

SO I THINK ONLY TIME IS GOING TO TELL EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO DO DUAL CREDIT AND WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO DO AP.

AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT'S TIME IS GOING TO TELL ON THAT.

HOWEVER, I DO KNOW THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT CCMR AND WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT ACCOUNTABILITY, A KID PASSING A DUAL CREDIT CLASS, THEN GOING AHEAD AND GETTING COLLEGE CREDIT IS GOING TO HELP OUR ACCOUNTABILITY.

WELL, IN MY OLDEST MY OLDEST DID TAKE AN AP HER FRESHMAN YEAR, SHE A IN THE CLASS, DID GREAT WITH IT, FAILED THE TEST AND THAT DISSUADED HER FROM TAKING ANY OTHER DUAL CREDIT AP SHE JUST TOOK THE REGULAR COURSES.

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THE REST GOT A 4.0, GOT A SCHOLARSHIP.

SHE'S DOING GREAT. BUT IT DISSUADED HER BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T PASS THE TEST.

EXACTLY. SO.

AND AND I THINK THAT IT'S A, IT'S A CULTURAL CHANGE.

AND, AND I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT WHAT IS THE GOAL.

IS IT ABOUT CLASS RANK OR IS IT ABOUT OPPORTUNITY? IS IT ABOUT BROADENING THE HORIZON AND SEEING THAT THE BIGGER PICTURE IS REALLY ABOUT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITY AND WALKING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL WITH WHAT IS REALLY BEST FOR YOU? WHAT IS IT THAT WHERE IS YOUR PASSION? WHERE IS YOUR STRENGTH? IF YOU'RE STRONG IN SCIENCE AND MATH, THEN THROUGH COUNSELING AND GUIDING PICK THE COURSES, PICK THE AP IF THAT'S WHERE YOUR PASSION. MY DAUGHTER WAS GOOD IN MATH AND SCIENCE.

THAT'S WHAT HER PASSION IS.

SHE WOULD HAVE GONE THE AP ROUTE AND DID, BUT WOULD NOT FOR ENGLISH.

SHE DIDN'T LIKE WRITING.

SO YOU DO WHAT IS WHAT IS WHAT YOUR PASSION IS, WHAT YOUR STRENGTHS ARE.

AND AND THEN THINK ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE.

IT'S MORE THAN JUST ABOUT A CLASS RANK.

AND WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE TOP 12 OR 15.

AND SO YOU KNOW THAT'S A LIMITED NUMBER.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU CHOOSE IN YOUR IF YOU'RE GOING FOR THE BIG PICTURE, IT'S THE ASSOCIATE.

IT'S WALKING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL WITH 15, 24, 43 HOURS OF COLLEGE CREDIT.

AND THAT POSITIONS YOU FOR A GREAT A GREAT STEP FORWARD IN A LARGER COLLEGE.

SO I THINK THAT OVER TIME, BY STARTING AT AN EARLIER AGE WHERE WE'RE ADVISING KIDS AT STARTING AT FIFTH GRADE ON INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ABOUT CHOICES, MAKING GOOD CHOICES.

AND WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO DO? WHAT'S YOUR PURSUIT AND HOW CAN HOW CAN WE PUT YOU ON THAT PATHWAY THAT'S GOING TO GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU WALK OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL WITH OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE THE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE GOT TO START TAKING PLACE.

AND I'LL JUST SAY TOO, I DON'T WANT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE OR A GIANT WET BLANKET OVER THIS THING, BUT I'D HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT TOP 12, BUT I DO THINK IT'S KIDS.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR KIDS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW.

I DID IT WITH TYLER AND WE'RE DOING IT WITH MADISON.

AND IT GOES BACK TO MONEY.

WE'RE IN SCHOLARSHIP WRITING SEASON, AND IF I WRITE AND HELP EDIT ONE MORE SCHOLARSHIP ESSAY, I MAY EAT A BULLET.

I'M TELLING YOU IT. I'M ABOUT I'M ABOUT THROUGH WITH IT.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S TEDIOUS.

IT IS. BUT A LOT OF THE SCHOLARSHIPS THAT ARE AWARDED TO KIDS ARE THE KIDS THAT CAN WRITE DOWN AP SCHOLAR WITH DISTINCTION TOP 2% YOU KNOW ACADEMICS, YOU KNOW, ALL STATE AND WHATEVER, WHETHER IT BE BAND OR FOOTBALL AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO YOU'RE CREATING THAT LAUNDRY LIST AND I WOULD I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'D VENTURE TO SAY THAT A TON OF HIGH SCHOOL KIDS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.

I'D VENTURE TO SAY THAT 50% OF COLLEGE KIDS STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAMMER THAT MESSAGE HOME.

I THINK KIDS ARE COMPETITIVE, AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO BE IN THAT TOP 1%, THAT TOP 2%, OR TRYING TO GET THAT FREE MONEY THROUGH SCHOLARSHIPS AND WHATNOT.

AND AND THEY'RE GERRYMANDERING THE SYSTEM.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. RIGHT? AND SO I JUST HAVE HEARTBURN OVER IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IF, IF WE'RE STILL IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT CCMR CREDIT WITH KIDS PASSING DUAL CREDIT ANYWAY, I STILL DON'T SEE A GOOD VALID REASON WHY WE'RE GOING TO WAIT.

DUAL CREDIT THE SAME THAT WE DO WITH AP.

I JUST I'M NOT SEEING IT YET.

I'M OPEN. I MEAN, IF YOU CAN CONVINCE ME I'M HAPPY TO BE CONVINCED, BUT I JUST I DON'T SEE IT.

AND PART OF IT'S BIAS ON MY PART.

BECAUSE I TOOK APS WAY BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND I GOT THREES AND FOURS AND FIVES IN BIOLOGY, AND THEN I WENT TO A&M AND I TOOK BIOLOGY 101.

AGAIN, I DIDN'T TAKE MY CREDIT BECAUSE IT WAS AN EASY A, BECAUSE I WAS PLAYING THE GPA GAME LIKE, WELL, THAT'S AN EASY A.

AND A LOT OF KIDS DO THAT TOO.

BUT THEY CHALLENGE THEMSELVES WITH AP.

AND I JUST THINK FOR ME IT'S JUST A HARD SELL.

I THINK AP IS MORE DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR.

I KNOW THERE'S DUAL CREDIT COURSES THAT MIGHT BE HARDER IN AP, BUT IF YOU TAKE IT SYSTEMICALLY, I THINK AP IS MORE RIGOROUS ACROSS THE BOARD THAN DUAL CREDIT, AND I JUST GET HEARTBURN OVER WAITING THEM BOTH THE SAME.

I WILL SAY, IF YOU GO BACK TWO SLIDES, I LOVE THE POLICY CHANGE AND FINALIZING CLASS RANKINGS AT THE END OF THE WHATEVER IT WAS AND NOT THE THIRD NINE WEEKS.

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THAT'S A HUGE, HUGE DEAL THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR SURE.

I LOVE THAT ASPECT OF IT.

WELL, I'LL STOP THERE.

THAT'S GOOD. AND ONE QUICK THING YOU KNOW, SENIOR YEAR, MY MY SON WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN AP COURSES.

HE JUST WOULD HAVE TAKEN DUAL CREDIT THAT THAT FIT.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT SENIOR.

HE DOESN'T HAVE TO PUT IN ALL THAT WORK TO DO THE AP.

I YOU KNOW, IT'S I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON OUR AP COURSES.

WE MAY HAVE THEM, BUT I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO TAKE THEM ANYMORE.

BECAUSE. WHY AM I GOING TO DO ALL THAT WORK IN SOME OF THESE ADVANCED CLASSES? IF I CAN JUST GO TAKE A DUAL CREDIT COURSE THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IS NOT AS I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE, BUT IT'S NOT AS ACADEMICALLY RIGOROUS. AND IT'S NOT NORMALLY SEEN THAT WAY IN THE ACADEMIC WORLD OUTSIDE OF HIGH SCHOOLS EITHER.

FROM JUST A PERSPECTIVE STANDPOINT I DON'T SEE WHY ANY SENIORS ARE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO THERE'S JUST NOT THAT MUCH.

AGAIN, THEY'RE FACING THE FACT THAT, WELL, I CAN DO THIS.

I'M STILL GOING TO GET THE SAME AS THE KID THAT'S IN DUAL CREDIT.

AND IF I AM SICK OR DON'T FEEL WELL ON TEST DAY, I DON'T EVEN GET CREDIT FOR THIS.

AND IT'S IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT.

SO IF OUR PHILOSOPHY IS WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF DEVASTATE OUR AP COURSES EVENTUALLY.

THEN I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GO OUT WITH OUR BLINDFOLDS OFF, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

MY SON WOULD NOT HAVE DONE ALL THAT AP STUFF HIS SENIOR YEAR.

WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR HIM EMOTIONALLY NOT TO DO ALL THAT? THAT'S A DIFFERENT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

WELL, WHAT I'M HEARING ALSO WE MAY AFTER SOME DATA IS GOING TO TELL US THE STORY, HOW IT IS AFFECTING THE AP CLASSES.

SO BE READY A YEAR FROM NOW TO TELL US HOW THE DATA HAS CHANGED.

HAVE THEY DROPPED? OH, I'M SORRY RICHARD, BUT ONCE YOU DO THIS TO TO MOVE THE SHIP FOR, FOR ACADEMIC PURPOSES IS I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS. NO, THIS THIS WOULD BE FOR INCOMING NINTH GRADE, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO WE WOULD STILL THE KIDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE NINTH GRADE WOULD STILL BE OVER.

AND I AM GOING TO I'M GOING TO POINT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS TRUE.

ONCE AN AP COURSE IS DEVASTATED, NOBODY TAKES IT.

THEN THAT AP TEACHER DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE FOR AP ANYMORE AND THEY CAN GO SOMEPLACE ELSE, OR THEY CAN MOVE ON.

IF THEIR CLASS DOESN'T MAKE NOW IT'S A DUAL CREDIT CLASS SOMEBODY ELSE IS HANDLING, SO YOU CAN'T JUST GO, OH WELL, YEAH, WE'RE BRINGING BACK WE'RE BRINGING THAT PERSON BACK IMMEDIATELY AND WE'RE GOING TO RECONSTITUTE THAT CLASS, I MEAN THAT, THIS IS IT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE, I, SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO JUMP ON YOU, BUT BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE ONE WHERE YOU CAN JUST GO THROUGH AND RECALIBRATE EVERY, COUPLE OF YEARS GOING, OH, THE DATA SHOWS THAT WE'RE RUINING OUR AP BECAUSE ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU'VE ALREADY RUINED YOUR AP AND HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS PROCESS AGAIN.

AND THEN, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 4 OR 6 YEARS OF THIS BEFORE WE CAN RECALIBRATE IT.

WHERE ARE YOUR AP TEACHERS? THEY MOVED ON. OR PERHAPS THEY GOT THEIR DUAL CREDIT CERTIFICATION I DON'T KNOW, BUT I REALLY DON'T SEE WHY SENIORS ARE GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER AP COURSE AGAIN UNLESS THEY'RE JUST.

WELL, YEAH. WELL, I THINK, JOE, I THINK THAT THE SENIORS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE THE AP ARE THE ONES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT TOP, TOP TIER STUDENT THAT IS WANTING AND DESIRING TO GO INTO SOME SPECIFIC PROGRAMS OR TRYING TO GET INTO CERTAIN SCHOOL OR TRYING TO GET CERTAIN SCHOLARSHIPS OUT, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE IT DOES LOOK GOOD ON A RESUME TODAY.

I THINK SEVERAL YEARS FROM NOW WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF HOUSE BILL EIGHT I, WE DON'T KNOW, IT WOULD JUST BE A GUESSING GAME TO KNOW IF THAT PHILOSOPHY IS GOING TO CHANGE AT THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL.

TODAY, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND I TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE AP? I STILL THINK THAT THAT TOP 20% WILL STILL DESIRE THAT BECAUSE OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, MATT, THE THE DESIRE FOR THE SCHOLARSHIPS, THE DESIRE FOR BEING ABLE TO PUT THAT ON THEIR RESUME AND TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO A COLLEGE INTERVIEW IN ANY SPECIFIC PROGRAM AND TALK ABOUT IT.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FOR THAT PARTICULAR STUDENT.

I THINK IT TO YOUR POINT, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT SCHOOL YOU'RE TRYING TO GET INTO.

AND SO SOME OF THE COLLEGE UNIVERSITIES WILL, THEY'LL, BE TARGETING THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE THAT.

SORRY. THIS IS OPENING UP A WHOLE CAN OF WORMS. BUT IN AREAS OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, CATERING TO THOSE THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE WANTING TO GO TO HOW DO I SAY THIS NICELY?

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WE HAVE A GENERALIZED COUNSELING PROGRAM FOR JUST THIS IS COLLEGE AND THIS IS YOUR FAFSA.

WE WE DON'T HAVE THERE COULD BE THERE COULD BE ROOM FOR GROWTH IN, IN, IN CATERING TO THOSE STUDENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS BECAUSE I DON'T I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GENERALLY DISSEMINATED INFORMATION AMONG MOST OF THOSE STUDENTS, MANY OF THEM FOR LOW SOCIOECONOMIC, THAT THIS WOULD BE THEIR FIRST TIME AT COLLEGE.

THEY HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THAT, THAT THIS COURSE WILL LOOK GOOD HERE AND THERE, THAT THAT WOULD BE AN AREA PERHAPS OF, OF THAT'S ONE AREA THAT THAT MY FAMILY THINKS THAT WE COULD IMPROVE.

ABSOLUTELY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK THAT THE COUNSELING OF STUDENTS ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE RAMPED UP.

OKAY. AND SO I'LL SAY THAT.

OKAY. AND, AND THEN BUT I DO WE DID MEET WITH AP TEACHERS, DUAL CREDIT TEACHERS A SELECT GROUP OF WE, I THINK WE CHOSE 3 TO 4 FROM EACH HIGH SCHOOL OF DUAL CREDIT AP AND THEN THOSE THAT COULD DO BOTH AND WERE DOING BOTH.

SO WE HAVE TEACHERS IN ALL THREE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS WHO ARE WHAT WE CALL EMBEDDED TCC TEACHERS, AS WELL AS FROM TWU.

AND SO THE IDEAL THING AND WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO SEE ARE TEACHERS WHO CAN DO BOTH, WHO CAN GO, WHO. AND SO AND I KNOW THAT I COULD NAME ONE RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW THAT TEACHES AT RICHLAND AND, AND SHE DOES BOTH DUAL CREDIT AND AP AND THINKS THAT STUDENTS ACTUALLY PROFIT FROM A BLEND.

SO WE MET WITH A GROUP OF THESE PEOPLE AND ASKED THEM TO REVIEW THE POLICY WITH US AND THEN TO REALLY ANSWER AND, AND DISCUSS.

WE GAVE THEM ABOUT 30 MINUTES TO DISCUSS THOSE QUESTIONS AND GIVE US FEEDBACK, AND WE TOOK THE SHEETS UP SO THAT WE CAN USE THEM AS WE THINK AS TO DEVELOP MATERIALS FOR PARENTS AND HOW TO COUNCIL OUR STUDENTS.

AND SO WE HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH THEM AND AND THEY EXPRESSED YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRANSITION TO THIS? AND THEY GAVE US SOME GREAT IDEAS.

SO WE WANT TO USE THEIR THEIR FEEDBACK TO COME UP WITH MATERIALS THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR PARENTS AND TEACHERS AND, AND, AND STUDENTS, AS WELL AS TO WORK ON OUR REGULATE, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION FOR HOW WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THIS IF IT'S APPROVED.

SO IT IS A SWITCH.

WE'RE NOT THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS IN, IN AND AROUND US THAT THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING AND THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS. OTHER QUESTIONS ALSO MET WITH THEM.

YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR DOCTOR CLARK OR SKIP OR LEANNE, IF I MAY ADD THIS IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE HAVE A THREE MEETING PROCESS ON A POLICY CHANGE FOR THIS VERY REASON OF HAVING DISCUSSION.

SO IF WE NEED TO CONSIDER SOME OTHER INFORMATION, BY ALL MEANS, THERE'S NO ACTION.

THE EARLIEST THAT ANY ACTION COULD BE TAKEN WOULD BE APRIL ANYWAY.

SO THIS GIVES US SOME TIME TO GET SOME INFORMATION THROUGH DOCTOR STINSON FROM THE BOARD OF WHAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE BRING IT FOR THAT INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION.

AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FROM THERE.

AND IF WE NEED TO DELAY THAT BY A MONTH OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE HAVE DIFFERENT WE HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AT, AT SOME BOARD MEETINGS THAT, AS YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE, WE HAVE MORE BOARD MEETINGS, SO WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY.

BUT THIS GIVES US GREAT INFORMATION TO TAKE BACK AND THEN KIND OF MEET WITH OUR TEACHERS AGAIN AND THEN COME WITH SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL OR THAT EVERYONE FEELS THAT WILL WORK.

BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, MR. TOLBERT. YOU JUST CAN'T.

THIS IS AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER.

YOU CANNOT JUST TURN THIS ON A DIME.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AS WE PROCEED THAT WE TAKE ALL THE THOUGHTS AND, AND THE IMPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TONIGHT AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS ADDRESSING THIS OR WHATEVER THE BOARD'S WILL IS SO WELL.

AND I DO WANT TO, I GUESS, ASK ONE MORE THING OR KIND OF COMMENT.

AGAIN, THE REASON WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND I'M.

THIS IS BECAUSE THE ACCOUNTABILITY, THE STATE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM IS WAITING OR BEGINNING TO WAIT, OR CHANGING THE WEIGHT OF CCMR QUITE A BIT, AND WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR NUMBERS AS FAR AS CCMR ARE CONCERNED, OR WE'RE GOING TO SLIP QUITE A BIT IN ACCOUNTABILITY.

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IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? AND SO I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD ALSO THEN BE IF I'M RIGHT THERE AND IF THIS WOULD HELP US MOVE THAT SCORE.

THE ANSWER IS THAT'S ONE PART OF IT.

YES, IT WOULD, IT WOULD.

THE MORE STUDENTS THAT ARE QUALIFIED AND ACTUALLY EARNING COLLEGE CREDIT DOES HELP.

BUT WE ALSO WANT TO GIVE OUR STUDENTS MORE OPPORTUNITIES.

SO IT IS IT'S HOW HOW WONDERFUL.

I'M VERY PROUD THE FACT THAT THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY GRADUATE 45 STUDENTS WITH AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE FROM EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. THAT'S A WONDERFUL THAT'S WONDERFUL.

AND SO HOW WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WE HAD MORE STUDENTS DO THAT? SO IT IS IT'S THAT AS WELL AS YES, IT DOES HELP US ON ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS TELLING US VIA HOUSE BILL EIGHT THAT THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS IS, IS TAKING IN TERMS OF HIGHER ED.

AND MAY I JUST ADD ONE LAST THING? IN IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT THAT MR. TOLBERT MR. WOMBLE MADE ABOUT AP, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT IN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL AP TEACHERS. AND THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A REPUTATION FOR BEING OUTSTANDING TEACHERS AND BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR STUDENTS.

AND WHEN A STUDENT KNOWS A TEACHER LIKE THAT AND KNOWS THE COURSE THAT THEY THEY TEACH, THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO THAT.

AND SO WHEN YOU TAKE A DUAL CREDIT COURSE AND YOU HAVE AN EMBEDDED TEACHER, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

AND IT IS A COLLEGE LEVEL COURSE.

AND, AND THEY TEACH THE COLLEGE LEVEL COURSE BASED UPON TCC, NOT ON BIRDVILLE.

WHEN WE TEACH BIRDVILLE AP COURSES, OUR THE TEACHER FOLLOWS BIRDVILLE GRADING AND SO DOING GETTING TO DO YOUR WORK OVER AGAIN HAVING OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE MORE SUPPORT FROM THE TEACHER IS THERE.

SO YOU HAVE THE DIFFERENCE IN TAKING A COLLEGE COURSE FROM A COLLEGE PROFESSOR THAT YOU DON'T, THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS REALLY NOT CONNECTED WITH, VERSUS A TEACHER THAT IS HIRED BY BIRDVILLE THAT COMPLIES WITH BIRDVILLE GRADING AND FOLLOWS THE BIRDVILLE YOU KNOW, PROCESS.

SO. SOMETIMES KIDS ARE GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BOTH COLLEGE LEVEL.

I KNOW WHAT I CAN EXPECT HERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO GET THERE.

SO I THINK THAT KIDS ARE GOING TO WEIGH AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT YOU IT MIGHT BE MORE RIGOROUS, BUT I KNOW WHAT I CAN EXPECT HERE.

SO I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE CHOICES ALSO ON WHO'S TEACHING IT.

AND AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'LL GET MORE SUPPORT FROM, FROM THE TEACHER.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMPANY? TOLBERT.

JUST SORRY.

BACK TO CHRIS'S POINT.

I JUST I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE BUMP IN C IN OUR, IN OUR RATING IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR IS THAT OR WE'RE HOPING FOR THE BUMP IS THAT MORE STUDENTS WILL TAKE DUAL CREDIT NOW BECAUSE IT'S FREE.

RIGHT. THAT'S NOT THE CONVERSATION THAT MATT AND I ARE HAVING.

UNDERSTOOD. THIS IS THIS IS A HIGH SCHOOL PROBABLY SENIOR WHO LOOKS AT DO I TAKE AT LEAST THE PERCEPTION IS, AS I SAY IN THE ACADEMIC FIELD, THAT THE AP IS MORE RIGOROUS.

WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT IN PRACTICE IS NOT FOR ME TO DECIDE, BUT THEY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

AM I GOING TO DO THE MORE RIGOROUS AP, OR AM I GOING TO TAKE DUAL CREDIT? EITHER WAY, THEY'RE TAKING ONE OF THOSE COURSES, AND BOTH OF THEM GIVE US POINTS FOR, FOR OUR FOR OUR ACCREDITATION.

SO EITHER ONE IS FINE.

SO I JUST I DO WANT TO SAY THAT MY, MY ARGUMENT IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER THIS WILL IMPACT OUR, OUR RATING.

MY ARGUMENT IS, THAT IT WILL HAVE IMPACT ON AP.

THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN AND THEN OR IS THAT OKAY FOR US THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

WELL, AND I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP BOTH IN MIND.

I MEAN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING, I THINK WE HAVE TO WEIGH THE TWO AGAINST EACH OTHER.

THE BENEFITS AND DETRIMENTS OF EACH.

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OKAY, SO I.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY.

MORE DISCUSSION. YOU YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN SOME DIRECTIVES ON SOME THINGS AND SOME THOUGHT PROCESSES THAT WILL BRING BACK MORE.

AND I'VE SHARED THAT LEANNE AND DOCTOR CLARK WILL WELCOME ANY COMMENTS OR EMAILS YOU CAN SEND TO THEM BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH AND APRIL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.

WE'LL GO TO OUR NEXT ITEM FLOORING AT BIRDVILLE HIGH SCHOOL, PORTER AND WALKER CREEK ELEMENTARIES.

[J.3. Painting at Thomas, North Ridge, and Watauga Elementary Schools [Katie Bowman, Associate Superintendent]]

I THINK IRENE HAS THOSE MAKE A PRESENTATION TO US.

GOOD. SORRY.

THAT'S MY FAULT. OKAY.

THE BOSS WAS HOT FOR A WHILE.

SORRY. IT WAS HOT FOR A WHILE.

SORRY. SORRY.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. IRENE.

SORRY. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE THERMOMETER IN HERE.

GOOD EVENING, DOCTOR STINSON, MR. DAVIS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE ON THE PAINTING PROJECTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE 2022 BOND.

THEY WILL BE GOING OUT FOR BID NEXT WEEK.

FOR WORK TO BE COMPLETED THIS SUMMER.

WE'RE DOING PAINTING OR FLOORING.

THIS IS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE WE SEPARATED THESE BECAUSE THE BIDS WILL BE APPROVED SEPARATELY.

BUT SHE HAS ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH OF THESE INFORMATION ITEMS. OKAY, WE'RE JUST LISTED FIRST IN OUR GROUP.

GO AHEAD. WE'LL GET TO IT.

RIGHT? YES. OKAY.

WE'LL START WITH PAINTING.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING AT A CF THOMAS ELEMENTARY, NORTHRIDGE ELEMENTARY AND WATAUGA ELEMENTARY.

SO THIS IS NORTHRIDGE.

THIS IS YOUR EXISTING CONDITIONS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS OUTSIDE THE MAIN HALLWAY.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF THE LONG ELEVATED CLEAR STORY AREA, JUST A VIEW DOWN THE HALLWAYS, YOUR TYPICAL CLASSROOM GYMNASIUM AND THE LIBRARY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PAINTING ALL THE SHEETROCK, ANY PAINTED SURFACE THAT IS ON THE CAMPUS.

WE'RE GOING TO PAINT.

SO THIS IS A PRIMARY LOGO FOR THE CAMPUS AND THE SCHOOL COLORS AS YOU CAN SEE.

SO OUR PROPOSED PAINT PALETTE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACCENTUATING THIS LOOKS A LITTLE GRAY HERE.

BUT IT IS A BLUE SO THAT IT PICKS UP THE NAVY BLUE FROM THE CAMPUS.

SO THIS IS A BEFORE AND AFTER.

IN THAT MAIN HALLWAY YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LIGHTING IT UP.

WE'RE GOING TO GENERALLY LIGHTEN EVERYTHING UP SO IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT BRIGHTER IN ALL THE SPACES.

HERE'S A TYPICAL CLASSROOM AGAIN THE SAME.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PAINTING ALL THE WALLS, SO IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BRIGHTER IN THE SPACES BY PAINTING IT WIDE THAN THE CEILING KIND OF ALL BLENDS IN TOGETHER.

IN THE GYMNASIUM, WE'RE BRINGING IN BOTH COLORS AND AGAIN IN PAINTING THE LIGHTER COLOR, BUT CREATING A DARKER COLOR DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.

AND THEN THE SAME AT THE LIBRARY.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE THE BLUES AT THE TOP AND BRINGING SOME OF THE LIGHTER COLORS DOWN.

THE NEXT CAMPUS OF CF THOMAS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY VERY SIMILAR TO NORTHRIDGE ELEMENTARY AND ALSO VERY SIMILAR.

THE MASCOT IS THE TIGERS, AND THE SCHOOL COLORS ARE PRETTY MUCH IDENTICAL TO NORTHRIDGE ELEMENTARY.

SO WE'RE BRINGING THE SAME PAINT PALETTE TO BE USED HERE.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE APPLYING THE COLORS IN A SIMILAR MANNER, LIGHTING THE TOP AT THE MAIN HALLWAY.

LIGHTNING THE CLASSROOMS AS WELL.

MAINLY SOME OF THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE WINDOWS, SO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BRIGHTER IN THERE.

AND THE GYM AGAIN, WE'RE BRINGING THE SCHOOL COLORS.

WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE CAMPUSES WITH MR. THOMAS TO BRING GRAPHICS BACK TO ALL THE GYMNASIUMS. I THINK THAT'S IT. YEAH.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS WATAUGA ELEMENTARY.

WATAUGA, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING.

THIS IS AT THE MAIN ENTRY.

YOU HAVE THE WINDOW FRAMES, AND WE HAVE THAT ALL THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS MAIN HALLWAY, THE GYMNASIUM RIGHT NOW AND THEN SOME OF THE GENERAL CLASSROOMS, LIBRARY AND ADMINISTRATION.

WATAUGA'S COLORS ARE THE GREEN AND THE YELLOW.

SO WE'RE BRINGING MORE OF A GREEN PALETTE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO PICK A THE A BASIC COLOR.

THERE'S GOING TO BE THE SAME. SO FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE, YOU'LL HAVE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD AT ALL YOUR CAMPUSES.

SO AGAIN, LIGHTNING UP THE MAIN ENTRY, GOING TO A LIGHTER GREEN AND THEN PAINTING ALL THE SURFACES IN A LIGHTER COLOR TO AGAIN BRIGHTEN UP THE SPACE.

DOWN THE MAIN HALLWAYS WE'RE PAINTING AT THE TOP.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH THE BRICK.

AND THEN IN THE CLASSROOMS WERE ALSO BRIGHTENING EVERYTHING UP.

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AND THE GYM YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.

THIS IS THE GYM AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S A LITTLE DINGY.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF GREEN AT THE BOTTOM.

WE'RE GOING TO PAINT ALL THE BEAMS AND EVERYTHING AT THE TOP A LIGHTER COLOR.

I FAILED TO MENTION AS AN ALTERNATE AND ALL THE CAMPUS, WE'RE GOING TO BE APPLYING A COATING TO ALL THE CEILINGS TO MAKE THEM ALL LOOK WHITER AND BRIGHTER AS WELL.

UNDER THE BASE OF THIS GYM, WE'RE GOING TO BE PAINTING THE ROOF DECK AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ALL BLENDS IN TOGETHER.

AND AGAIN THE LIBRARY, WE'RE GOING TO BRIGHTEN IT UP.

WE'RE GOING TO PAINT THE FRAMES LIGHT COLOR AS WELL.

SO THAT WAY THE COLOR FROM THE LIBRARY WILL STAND OUT AND NOT NECESSARILY THE FRAMES BEING THE FIRST THING YOU NOTICE.

IRENE. AM I CORRECT IN THAT THE SLIDE BEFORE OF THE WATAUGA GYMNASIUM, THAT'S THE ORIGINAL ROOF DECKING TO THE SCHOOL. IT IS.

IT'S TIME TO BRIGHTEN IT UP.

AND THAT'S IT FOR THE FLOOR, FOR THE PAINTING.

ANY QUESTIONS ON PAINTING? LET'S GO TO FLOORS. OKAY.

[J.2. Flooring at Birdville High School, Porter and Walker Creek Elementary Schools [Katie Bowman, Associate Superintendent]]

SO THE FLOORS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, WE'RE RELEASING AT THE SAME TIME AS BIRDVILLE HIGH SCHOOL, WALKER CREEK ELEMENTARY.

AND THEY'LL BE WA PORTER.

AND THIS IS WHAT THE ITEM THAT WAS INCLUDED IN BOND IS TO REPLACE ALL VINYL COMPOSITION TILE FLOORING IN THOSE BUILDINGS.

SO STARTING FROM WA PORTER, AS YOU KNOW, YOU DID A RENOVATION TO THE ADMINISTRATION AREA TO CREATE THAT VESTIBULE, AND YOU BROUGHT IN THE LUXURY VINYL TILE AND A WOOD PATTERN.

SO YOU SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THIS IS CAFETERIA STAGE, WHICH IS WOOD, AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT ALONE.

THESE ARE YOUR TYPICAL HALLWAYS DOWN, PORTER.

AND THIS IS AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN TOWARDS THE GYM, THERE'S THAT RAMP THAT LEADS YOU DOWN.

AND THEN THE GYM CURRENTLY HAS THE RUBBER FLOORING AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, SCHOOL COLORS AND MASCOTS ARE SIMILAR THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE WITH SOME BLACK.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING A FLOORING THAT IS GOING TO KIND OF MATCH AND ENHANCE THE WOOD FLOORING THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE OR THE WOOD LOOK VINYL FLOORING THAT YOU HAVE.

AND THEN WE ARE INTRODUCING CARPET IN THE CLASSROOMS AT THIS CAMPUS.

AND WE'RE DOING SOME THIS IS THE ROPEY RUBBER THAT WOULD GO ON THAT RAMP WHERE IT RAMPS DOWN.

SO AS NONSKID, WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATE AT THIS CAMPUS TO PAINT SOME OF THE HALLWAYS.

SO THAT WAY, AGAIN, WE HATE TO WALK OUT OF THE CAMPUS AND YOU GET NEW FLOORS AND THE WALLS DON'T LOOK OKAY.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO BID EVERYTHING OUT AS AN ALTERNATE IN THAT WAY.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET GOOD BIDS AND WE CAN ACCEPT IT.

IF NOT, YOU HAVE DRAWINGS READY TO GO, SO WHENEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.

SO THIS IS THE HALLWAYS.

THIS IS WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S COMPLETE.

IT WILL HAVE THAT LIGHT COLOR OF WOOD LOOKING VINYL FLOORING.

AND THEN THE WALLS WOULD BE PAINTED IN THAT SAME COLOR, WHITE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE COLORS.

THE SCHOOL COLORS WILL BE CARRIED AT THE TOP.

WE ALSO ARE DOING AN ALTERNATE IN THIS CAMPUS TO IN ORDER NOT TO HAVE PAINTED SURFACES DOWN LOW AT THE ELEMENTARY BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS WALK DOWN THE HALLWAY AND TOUCH THE WALLS. SO WE HAVE ONE OPTION TO GO TO TILE WITH THE WAINSCOT OR ABOUT THREE FEET AT THE BOTTOM.

AND THEN WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE TO DO VINYL WALL COVERING ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

SO AGAIN SAME TO WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE BID AND GET NUMBERS ON ALL THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS.

THESE ARE THE EXISTING CLASSROOMS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE THE VINYL TILE, AND WE'RE PROPOSING GOING TO THE CARPET.

THIS CAMPUS ALSO HAS SOME OF THE DEAF ED PROGRAM.

WE KNOW THAT THE CARPET HELPS WITH ACOUSTICS AND THE IMPROVEMENTS IN AND AND CARPET DON'T DON'T CREATE INDOOR AIR QUALITY ISSUE THAT ACTUALLY HELPS. WHAT'S THE LIFE OF THAT CARPET? THERE ARE 20 YEAR CARPETS.

THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS IS THE GYM.

ONE OF THE GYMS HAS THE WOOD FLOOR RUBBER MATERIAL, THE OTHER ONE HAS A VINYL TILE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING THAT ONE WITH A RUBBER FLOOR THAT AGAIN HAS THAT WOULD LOOK TO IT.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, MR. TOLBERT? I WAS JUST SORRY.

I DON'T WANT TO BOG DOWN ON CARPET, BUT WOW, BACK TO CARPET.

IS THIS GOING TO BE A NEW STANDARD OR IS THIS JUST FOR THIS? SO I THINK THESE ARE THE TEST CAMPUSES AT THIS POINT OKAY.

SO WE'RE TESTING THIS OUT. TEST IT OUT.

SO THE SO THE DATA IS VERY CLEAR I THINK IRENE CAN TALK TO AND JOHN AS WELL CAN TALK ABOUT THAT VERY CLEARLY.

BUT THE DATA IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT DISCIPLINE CONCENTRATION, THE NOISE FACTOR, THE DECREASE OF ANY ANXIETY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE ON THE CAMPUSES AND THE CARPET TODAY IS NOT THE CARPET OF YESTERDAY.

SO IT'S THE SAME LIFESPAN AS THE LBE.

CLEAN IT WITH NOTHING BUT WATER AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN CARPET TILES.

SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ONE, YOU PICK IT UP, REPLACE IT.

SO MANY OF THE NEW CAMPUSES, NEW BUILDS THAT ARE THAT ARE GOING ON ALL OVER THE METROPLEX AND STATE AND EVERYWHERE ARE PUTTING IN

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CARPET. YEAH, YEAH.

SO THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE TO TEST IT.

GOOD QUESTION, GOOD ANSWER.

WALKER CREEK ELEMENTARY, JUST SOME IMAGES OF THE EXISTING.

THESE ARE THE HALLWAYS AND LEAD, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE CLASSROOMS TO THE CAFETERIA.

THESE ARE THE THE STAIRS AGAIN.

WHEN YOU COME INTO THE BUILDING, YOU GO DOWN A SET OF STAIRS.

TYPICAL CLASSROOM.

WE ALSO HAVE THOSE COLLABORATION SPACES IN BETWEEN THE CLASSROOMS. THE GYM ALSO HAS VCT CURRENTLY.

AND AGAIN INTO THE LIBRARY WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE RUBBER TREADS.

SO THIS IS THE SCHOOL LOGO AND THE COLORS.

SO WE'VE KEPT KIND OF A BLUE AND A NEUTRAL PALETTE FOR THE CAMPUS.

AND ALSO BRINGING IN THAT SAME LUXURY VINYL TILE COLOR.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE EXISTING HALLWAY AND THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE NEW.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE AGAIN CHANGING THE TREADS AND RISERS TO SOMETHING MORE DURABLE.

AND WITH THE MARKINGS SO THAT THEY'RE EASY TO SEE.

A TYPICAL CLASSROOMS WHERE WE HAVE THE LVT, BUT WE'RE DOING THE CARPET HERE AS WELL AS PART OF THE TESTING.

AND THEN IN THE COLLABORATION SPACES, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE PUTTING IN CARPET IN THE COLLABORATION SPACE, BUT FLANKING IT WITH THE LVT AND THE HALLWAY SPACES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS CAMPUS IS ALSO DOING AN ALTERNATE TO ADD SOME ACOUSTICAL PANELS IN THE CEILINGS OF THOSE COLLABORATION SPACES.

A COMBINATION BETWEEN THE CARPET AND THE ACOUSTICAL PANELS.

IT SHOULD DEADEN THE NOISE.

SO THAT WAY THOSE SPACES ARE USED MORE THAN THEY CURRENTLY ARE.

AND THEN THAT'S THE EXISTING GYM THAT HAS THE THE VINYL TILE.

AND THEN WE'D BE GOING TO THE TO THE WOOD BLOCK AS WELL, A LIGHTER COLOR.

AND THEN LASTLY, BIRDVILLE HIGH SCHOOL.

AS YOU KNOW, BIRDVILLE HIGH SCHOOL HAS PORCELAIN TILED ON THE MAIN HALLWAYS.

THE HALLWAYS AND THE TWO STORY CLASSROOM WING HAVE THE VINYL TILE.

THERE'S ALSO THE HALLWAY LEADING TO THE MUSIC ROOMS AND THEATER IN THE BACK.

HAVE VINYL TILE ART CLASSROOMS. ALSO, THESE ARE THE ONES RIGHT OFF OF THE MAIN STREET HAVE VINYL TILE.

MAIN STAIRCASES LEADING IN THE TWO STORY WING HAVE THAT RUBBER TREAD AND RISER, AND THEN A TYPICAL CLASSROOM AGAIN HAS A VINYL TILE.

SCHOOL COLORS, AS YOU KNOW, THE GREEN AND GOLD.

AND SO WE'RE GOING FOR A CARPET THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A GREEN COLOR, A SAGE, AND THEN BRINGING IN THAT SAME COLOR. SO WE'RE DOING AN ALTERNATE.

IT WAS NOT IN THE BOND TO REPLACE THE FLOOR ON THE MAIN STREET, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO AN ALTERNATE TO GET PRICING FOR IT TO REPLACE THAT FLOOR, AS YOU KNOW, IS THERE'S CRACKING AND THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH IT.

SO WE AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A PRICE AND HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE THE WHOLE MAIN STREET AND THE CAFETERIA.

AGAIN, BRINGING THE SAME COLOR DOWN THOSE MAIN HALLWAYS AND THE TWO STORY CLASSROOM WING.

AND THEN REPLACING THE CARPET AND THE VCT IN THE CLASSROOM WITH CARPET AGAIN AS A TESTER, MAKE A NOTE THAT NOT CLASSROOMS WITH WATER AND THE SCIENCE.NO SCIENCE, NO CAREER TECH, NO ANYTHING WHERE THERE'S WATER.

AND THEN AT THE ELEMENTARY, ANYWHERE WHERE WE'RE PUTTING CARPET BUT THERE'S A SINK, WE'RE PUTTING LUXURY VINYL TILE IN FRONT OF THE SINK.

SO THAT WAY, ONE OF THE THINGS IT DOES AGAIN, YOU WON'T BE YOU WON'T HAVE TO WAX IT.

NOBODY WILL HAVE TO GO INTO THE CLASSROOM TO DO ANY WAXING OR ANYTHING.

SO THAT'S IT.

WITH THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING RELEASING FORBID NEXT FRIDAY AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE BACK TO YOU SO THAT THE WORK CAN BE DONE THIS SUMMER.

SUMMER WORKED IN EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS.

YES. ALL THE ALL THE FLOORING THAT HAS BEEN SELECTED IS AS QUICK SHIP.

SO IT'S EASILY AVAILABLE.

AND AND OBVIOUSLY THE PAINT IS ALSO EASY TO OBTAIN.

THE QUESTION IS WILL THEY USE THE RIGHT GLUE? WELL THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

IS THAT THE LTB IS NOT FLOATING.

IT'S GLUE ON.

YEAH. IT IT'S GLUED ON LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON ALL CAMPUSES.

BUT YES. NO, IT'S A FULL IT'S SPECIFIED IT'S A FIVE MILLIMETERS THICK.

AND THE GLUE THAT WOULD BE USED IS THE ONE RECOMMENDED BY THE MANUFACTURER.

THAT'S, THOSE ARE 30 YEAR TILES.

YEAH, THEY'RE 20 YEAR AS WELL, BUT MOST OF IT LASTS QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW.

SO, MR. DAVIS, THE GLUE WILL BE [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PAINTING OR THE THE FLOORING AT THESE SCHOOLS? IT'S GOING BE A BUSY SUMMER.

GET SOME THINGS DONE THERE.

YES. MR. DRYSDALE IS LOOKING EXCITED ABOUT THAT HAPPENING AT HIS SCHOOL.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

[J.4. Purchase of Ten Additional Buses [Katie Bowman, Associate Superintendent]]

THIS IS ITEM J FOR PURCHASE OF TEN ADDITIONAL BUSSES.

[01:35:05]

MISS WYNN IS HERE WITH ME TONIGHT.

SHE'S PUT TOGETHER SOME GREAT INFORMATION FOR YOU GUYS, AND WE WILL MAKE THIS EXTREMELY QUICK.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS $5 MILLION PUT IN THE BOND TO HELP US REPLENISH OUR BUSSES.

IN FACT, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE ORDER FROM LAST YEAR.

THAT'S GOING TO TOTALLY ELIMINATE ANY OF OUR NON AIR CONDITIONED BUSSES FOR REGULAR EDUCATION.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE.

BUT I ASKED HER TO PUT TOGETHER SOME DATA FOR YOU.

I FIGURE AS YOU TALK TO THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE INFORMATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE TRANSPORT BETWEEN 3700 AND 4500 STUDENTS PER YEAR.

OUR FIELD TRIPS ARE QUITE A BIT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY BECAUSE OUR STUDENTS ARE VERY BUSY DOING EXCITING THINGS IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE 43 REGULAR ROUTES, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.

AND AS YOU KNOW, OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM IS CONTINUING TO GROW.

AND SO WE HAVE ALREADY INCREASED SIX ROUTES FROM LAST YEAR.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A FEW MORE FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

THE REASON THOSE ROUTES INCREASE IS WE ADD STUDENTS WE HAVE TO DO CURB TO CURB.

SO WE HAVE TO PICK THESE STUDENTS UP AT THEIR HOME.

AND WHEN WE GET TOO MANY STUDENTS ON THOSE BUSSES, IT INCREASES THE ROUTE TO OVER TWO HOURS SOMETIMES.

SO THAT'S USUALLY WHEN WE HAVE TO SPLIT THOSE BUSSES BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT SHE'S DOING EVERY DAY.

HER STAFF ARE VERY BUSY.

MCKINNEY VENTO IS OUR HOMELESS POPULATION, AND WE DO HAVE TO PICK UP THOSE STUDENTS IF THEY MOVE TO ANOTHER DISTRICT.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE TO PICK UP, AND THEN WE HAVE MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES GOING ON DURING THE DAY BETWEEN GIFTED AND TALENTED COLLEGIATE ACADEMY SHUTTLES. TO BCTAL, PALS READY SET, TEACH COMMUNITY BASED INSTRUCTION TUTORIALS, CLINICALS.

WE WE WE KEEP OUR OUR DRIVERS BUSY AND WE MIGHT JUST ADD THAT'S LIKE 400 OR 643 RUNS A DAY.

THAT WE DO ON TOP OF FIELD TRIPS.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE INVENTORY.

I ALWAYS LIKE YOU TO SEE THAT.

AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO COMMEND MISS WYNN.

AS YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOTTEN ON TOP OF THESE BUS GRANTS, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUY EVEN MORE BUSSES BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE THROUGH THE TEXAS COUNCIL OF SCHOOL GOVERNMENTS.

NOW, SADLY THE GRANT THAT WE LIST THERE, THE 2024 OPENED UP TODAY AND WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT YEAR BUSSES AVAILABLE.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY MONEY OFF OF THIS ONE.

BUT WE DO HAVE BUSSES THAT WE THINK WILL BE CONNECTED TO THE ONE NEXT YEAR.

BUT WE NEEDED 2006 BUSSES, AND WE HAVE 2007 THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO REPLACE.

WE WEREN'T OLD ENOUGH, RIGHT.

THEY'RE NOT WE WEREN'T OLD ENOUGH.

THEY'RE NOT OLD ENOUGH. OKAY. RIGHT.

ONE MORE YEAR. BUT WE'LL BE LOOKING TO THAT DATE NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND TELL HIM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING FOR THIS NEXT PURCHASE? WELL SO, LIKE SHE SAID.

JANUARY 23RD, WE ALREADY RECEIVED THOSE BUSSES, AND THEY'RE ON THE ON THE ROAD.

MARCH AND SEPTEMBER. THEY'RE NOT DUE HERE UNTIL JULY, AUGUST.

SO WE HAD HOPED THEY'D BE HERE IN APRIL, BUT THEY ARE BEHIND SCHEDULE.

AND SO THOSE 15 BUSSES COMING IN HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE READY EARLY FALL.

AND THEN FOR THE LAST, THIS LAST ONE FOR THIS ONE COMING UP IN 2024, MARCH, WE'RE PROPOSING ANOTHER TEN BUSSES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE 372 FOR SPECIAL ED AND THREE MICROS.

OUR MICROS. WE USE A LOT FOR MCKINNEY VENTO, SOME SPECIAL ED AND OUR COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAMS. IN THE MICRO, I BELIEVE, HOLD 14.

14. SO THAT'S BEEN A REAL HELP.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CDL TO DRIVE THE MICRO, EVEN THOUGH SHE DOES TAKE THEM THROUGH THE NORMAL TRAINING PROGRAM.

AND THEN SHE PUT TOGETHER JUST WHAT WE'VE SPENT SO FAR.

SO THE PROPOSED PURCHASE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOU NEXT BOARD MEETING IS ABOUT JUST UNDER 1.4 MILLION.

WE HAVE ABOUT 1.6 REMAINING.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE MORE BUSSES THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN PICK UP AND WE WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR.

MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT GRANT AND OFFSET TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE THAN THE COUPLE.

SO QUESTIONS FOR KATIE OR MISS WINN YOU'VE ALREADY GOT MORE BUSSES WITH THE MONEY THAT WE ALLOCATED FOR THAT, WE'RE GRATEFUL WE MISSED THIS YEAR.

BUT THANKS FOR BEING ON TOP OF IT ALREADY FOR NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING A BIGGER BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

REALLY WE ARE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'LL GO TO OUR SEPARATE ACTION ITEMS BEFORE WE CONSIDER THE PERSONNEL ITEMS.

[K.1. Consider Personnel Items as Discussed in Closed Session]

WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT DOCTOR STINSON HAS ACCEPTED 14 RESIGNATIONS AND 21 RETIREMENTS.

DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THE PERSONNEL ITEMS? START CALLING NAMES OUT MR.

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PRESIDENT. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE AND ADOPT ALL PERSONAL ITEMS, INCLUDING CONTRACT RENEWALS, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT AND DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

MS. SANDERS, WAS THERE A SECOND.

SECOND. SECOND MR. DREES.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY A RAISED HAND.

MOTION DOES CARRY UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM K TWO, CONSIDER THE 2024-25 INSTRUCTIONAL CALENDAR.

[K.2. Consider the 2024-25 Instructional Calendar [Dr. Elizabeth Clark, Associate Superintendent]]

IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THE BOARD APPROVE THE 24-25 INSTRUCTIONAL CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.

MOTION MR. KUNKEL, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND PRESIDENT.

THANK YOU, MR. TOLBERT.

ANY DISCUSSION? QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE, THEY'RE REALLY LIKING THE SCHEDULE, PARTICULARLY THE THINGS AROUND THE HOLIDAY TIMES, BUT ALSO HAVING THAT LONG WEEKEND ALMOST EVERY MONTH.

SKIP AND YOUR GROUP DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY RAISED HAND.

MOTION DOES CARRY UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM K THREE.

[K.3. Consider Haltom High School Renovations and Addition [Katie Bowman, Associate Superintendent]]

CONSIDER HALTOM HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS.

YEAH. MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE HALTOM HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS AS PRESENTED, AND AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ANALYZE AND AWARD THE BID AT A NOT TO EXCEED PROJECT BUDGET OF 26.85 MILLION, PLUS 2.5%, AND EXECUTE ALL CONTRACTS IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.

THANK YOU, MR. DREES.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND? MISS SANDERS-WISE, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, SIGNIFY BY RAISED HAND.

CHRISTIE, CAN WE TEAR UP YOUR SCHOOL THIS SUMMER? ALL RIGHT, I NEED NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDER CONTRACT FOR PAVILION WITH CANOPY FOR THE CHENEY HILLS BRIDGE PARKING LOT.

[K.4. Consider Contract for Pavilion with Canopy for Cheney Hills Bridge Parking Lot Student Pick Up [Katie Bowman, Associate Superintendent]]

THE STUDENT PICKUP AREA.

IS THERE A MOTION? MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE BOARD, APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH GOLDSMITH CONSTRUCTION COMPANY INCORPORATED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PAVILION AND SIDEWALK CANOPY AT THE BRIDGE.

STUDENT PICKUP PARKING AREA OF CHENEY HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU, MR. DILKS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MISS SANDERS-WISE? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY A RAISED HAND.

MOTION DOES CARRY UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM FIVE, CONSIDER HVAC REPLACEMENTS AND UPDATES FOR HOLIDAY HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY, WATAUGA ELEMENTARY, AND THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

[K.5. Consider HVAC Replacements and Updates for Holiday Heights Elementary, Watauga Elementary, and Administration Building, Phase 1 [Katie Bowman, Associate Superintendent]]

PHASE ONE. IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THE BOARD, APPROVE THE HVAC REPLACEMENTS AND UPDATES.

GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE GMP WITH LEE LEWIS FOR HOLIDAY HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY, WATAUGA ELEMENTARY AND THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

PHASE ONE AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU, MR. TOLBERT. SECOND.

YOU'RE NEXT.

SECOND. MISTER WOMBLE, THAT'S YOU? IS IT YOU.

NO, IT WAS. OH, I'M SORRY, MR. DILKS. I'M TELLING MR. WOMBLE HE'S NEXT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN ORDER.

OH, OKAY, I GOT YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND, MR. DILKS.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY RAISED HAND.

MOTION DOES CARRY UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM SIX. CONSIDER THE BIRDVILLE ISD PROPOSED LOCAL POLICY UPDATE AFFECTING THE LOCAL POLICIES THAT WERE LISTED.

[K.6. Consider the Birdville ISD Proposed Local Policy Update Affecting Local Policy Listed (Third Reading) [Skip Baskerville, Associate Superintendent]]

IS THERE A MOTION? MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE REVISIONS TO BOARD POLICY FNCE LOCAL, STUDENT CONDUCT PERSONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS, ELECTRONIC DEVICES AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU, MS. SANDERS-WISE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THAT'S MR. WOMBLE. THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, SIGNIFY BY A RAISED HAND.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

[K.7. Consider the Texas Association of School Boards (TASB) Proposed Policy Update 122, Affecting Local Policies Listed (Third Reading) [Skip Baskerville, Associate Superintendent]]

ITEM SEVEN, CONSIDER THE PROPOSED POLICY UPDATE 122 AFFECTING LOCAL POLICIES THAT ARE LISTED.

IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADD, REVISE OR DELETE LOCAL POLICIES AS RECOMMENDED BY TASB POLICY SERVICES AND UPDATE 122.

THANK YOU. MR. KUNKEL. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY MR. DREES. A LOT OF HARD WORK WITH SKIP AGAIN AND HIS STAFF.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY RAISED HAND.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO MENTION TWO DONATIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED FOR ACCEPTANCE AS A PART OF THIS CONSENT CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.

PORTER ELEMENTARY PROVIDE THE FUNDS FOR A SENSORY GARDEN AT PORTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SMITHFIELD METHODIST CHURCH DONATED FUNDS TO SMITHFIELD ELEMENTARY TO HELP BENEFIT STUDENTS STRUGGLING WITH LUNCH FEES AND SUPPLIES.

ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, WANT TO THANK THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS FOR THOSE GREAT, GREAT DONATIONS TO OUR SCHOOLS.

NOW WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.

[L. CONSENT ITEMS]

ALL ITEMS IN THIS AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED WITH ONE MOTION, UNLESS THEY ARE REMOVED BY THE FROM THE AGENDA BY TRUSTEE.