AGENDA FOR THURSDAY NIGHT? YES. GOOD EVENING.
[A. CALL TO ORDER]
[00:00:08]
THE JULY 22ND, 2025 SPECIAL BOARD MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.[B. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS]
AND A NOTICE OF THE MEETING WAS POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.YES, MR. KUNKEL, WE DID POST AND ADVERTISE THE MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.
THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW CONVENE IN THE CLOSED SESSION AS AUTHORIZED BY TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551,
[C. CLOSED SESSION]
SPECIFICALLY 074 PERSONNEL, 072 RURAL PROPERTY, 071.CONSULTATION WITH THE BOARD'S ATTORNEY IN 076 SECURITY.
THE TIME IS 5:31. TIME IS 6:41,
[D. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION ]
AND WE WILL NOW RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION. NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK DURING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING, SO WE'LL PROCEED TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.[F. INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION ITEMS]
CATEGORY F, INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION. MR. BASKERVILLE, THE PROPOSED 25-26 STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT EXTRACURRICULAR HONOR CODE. YES. DOCTOR SHOWELL, I'M GOING TO COME AND SPEAK TO THIS AS FAR AS WE HAVE MANY CHANGES THAT BECAUSE OF THE 89TH LATEST LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND DOCTOR SHOWELL AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. AND WILL HIGHLIGHT THE MINOR CHANGES THERE OR THE CHANGES THERE.OKAY. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT KUNKEL. VICE PRESIDENT SANDERS'-WISE, BOARD MEMBERS.
AND I MIGHT ADD, THESE ARE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS.
DOCTOR SHOWELL. WELL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. CORRECT.
IT WAS A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A CAMPUS BEHAVIOR COORDINATOR, BUT THOSE DUTIES COULD BE SHARED.
THIS BEHAVIOR COORDINATOR CHANGE SAYS YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE SPECIFIC LABELED COORDINATOR.
YOU CAN HAVE OTHERS HELP, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE PERSON.
SO THAT'S A MODIFICATION OF WHAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE.
HOUSE BILL 6 WAS THE BIG BILL FOR THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT.
AND ONE OF THE CHANGES THERE. IS THE MICROPHONE.
YOU'RE SO TALL. OH, OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE CHANGES THERE WAS FIRST TIME OFFENSE OF POSSESSION OR USE OF A NICOTINE CIGARETTE OR E-VAPE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A DISCRETIONARY PLACEMENT.
IT WAS A MANDATORY PLACEMENT LAST YEAR. IT IS OUR EXPECTATION THAT THOSE PLACEMENTS STILL OCCUR.
BUT IT IS A DISCRETIONARY PLACEMENT. THAT IS THE CHANGE OF THE LAW FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.
BUT, DOCTOR SHOWELL, IF I MAY INTERRUPT, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW OUR PRACTICE OF THAT ALTHOUGH THE LAW IS RELAXED THE CONSEQUENCE, WE'RE STILL GOING TO MAINTAIN THE THE PRACTICE OF VAPING WILL WILL EQUAL A DAP.
AM I CORRECT ON THAT? CORRECT. AND THIS IS ONLY A CHANGE FOR FIRST TIME OFFENDERS.
SECOND OR THIRD TIME WOULD BE MANDATORY STILL.
THIS WAS ONLY A RECOMMENDATION FOR FIRST TIME.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN OUR STANCE, OUR POSITION.
AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF HOUSE BILL 6 TOOK THE LIMIT OFF OF ISS PLACEMENT.
ISS PLACEMENT USED TO BE A 3 DAY MAX. NOW IT CAN BE MUCH LONGER.
HOWEVER, THE CAMPUS ADMINISTRATOR HAS TO CHECK IN ON THE STUDENT AT LEAST ONCE EVERY 10 DAYS TO ENSURE THAT THE ACADEMIC NEEDS ARE BEING MET. FOR STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. SPECIAL EDUCATION, WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THEIR NEEDS ARE BEING MET AS WELL AS THE STUDENTS IN REGULAR ED. SO THIS WAS A CHANGE OPENING UP LONGER PLACEMENTS IN ISS WITH ADMINISTRATOR REVIEW OF THOSE STUDENTS.
SO THIS PART OF HOUSE BILL SIX NEEDS A VOTE BY THE BOARD.
AND THE FIRST PART THAT YOU SEE BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE CAMPUS HAS TO HAVE A PARENTAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR PLACEMENTS OR THE DISTRICT HAS NOT ADOPTED A POLICY FOR PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT IN SCHOOL DISCIPLINARY PLACEMENTS.
[00:05:06]
WE'RE CURRENTLY ALREADY DOING THIS AND THE WAY IT WORKS FOR DAEP.IF A STUDENT GOES FOR, LET'S SAY, 20 DAYS, THERE'S A PARENTAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT SAYS IF YOU HAVE GOOD ATTENDANCE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE DISCIPLINE PROBLEMS, IF YOU DO YOUR WORK, YOU CAN GET OUT IN 10 DAYS.
SO IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF TIME IN A DAP SETTING FROM 20 DAYS TO 10 DAYS, 30 DAYS TO 20 DAYS.
IF THE STUDENT COMPLETES HIS PART OR HER PART OF THAT PARENT AGREEMENT.
WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT ON A CAMPUS LEVEL. BUT NOW WITH THIS LONGER ISS PLACEMENT, YOU COULD SAY, OKAY, INSTEAD OF A 10 DAY PLACEMENT, IT COULD BE A 5 DAY PLACEMENT IF YOU COMPLETE YOUR PART OF THE BARGAIN.
THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO AGAIN, WE'RE ALREADY DOING IT IN A LIMITED ROLE FOR DAEP.
THIS WAS JUST EXPANDED FOR THE INCREASE IN ISS.
WE'LL BE BRINGING LANGUAGE AT THE AUGUST 28TH BOARD MEETING.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE IN PLACE BY THE 1ST DAY OF SCHOOL.
SO WE'LL BE BRINGING SOME LANGUAGE AT THE AUGUST BOARD MEETING FOR THAT.
OKAY. AND THEN THIS REQUIRES SENATE BILL 12 REQUIRES DISTRICTS TO POST GRIEVANCE FORMS ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE, MAKE THEM AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST.
WE ALREADY HAVE GRIEVANCE FORMS. PARENTS COULD ASK FOR THEM.
IT'S NOT NEW FOR US TO HAVE GRIEVANCE FORMS. THE BIG CHANGE HERE IS THE REQUIREMENT OF POSTING OF THOSE FORMS ON OUR SITES FOR PARENTS TO HAVE AN EASIER ACCESS. SO NOT A NEW FORM AT ALL, NOT A NEW PROCEDURE, JUST A NEW WAY OF POSTING THE FORMS. AND THEN THIS WAS AN ADDED THIS WAS A NEW PIECE OF LEGISLATION SENATE BILL 326 AND INCLUDES RHETORICAL AND PHYSICAL ACTS OF ANTI-SEMITISM DIRECTED TOWARDS JEWISH OR NON-JEWISH INDIVIDUALS OR THEIR PROPERTY, OR TOWARD JEWISH COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS AND RELIGIOUS FACILITIES.
SO ANTI-SEMITISM HAS BEEN DEFINED NOW. IT WAS NOT DEFINED.
AND SO NOW WE HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT ANTI-SEMITISM IS.
AND THEN THIS IS THE VIRTUAL EXPULSION PROGRAM CURRENTLY FOR DISCIPLINE YOU HAD DAEP OR JJAEP.
THIS OFFERS A VIRTUAL EXPULSION WHERE STUDENTS WHO COMMIT CERTAIN OFFENSES INSTEAD OF GOING TO DAEP OR JJAEP, WE COULD HAVE A VIRTUAL PROGRAM WHERE WE WOULD STILL GET ATTENDANCE FOR THOSE STUDENTS.
THOSE STUDENTS WOULD BE PROVIDED A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL AND AT HOME, IF YOU WILL, VERSUS GOING TO DAEP OR JJAEP. AND AGAIN, WE WOULD STILL GET ATTENDANCE FOR THOSE STUDENTS.
AND THEN THIS IS THE BIG CELL PHONE CHANGE FOR SOME PLACES.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE HERE IN BIRDVILLE, WE HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING A STRINGENT STRICT CELL PHONE POLICY IN MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS, IN THE CLASSROOMS, IT WAS MAINLY THE CAFETERIA AND THE HALLWAYS THAT STUDENTS HAD THE LIBERTY TO HAVE THEIR PHONES OUT. WHAT THIS SAYS IS THAT IT PROHIBITS THE USE OF PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES WHILE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY DURING THE SCHOOL DAY.
THE EXCEPTIONS FOR THAT WOULD BE MEDICAL EXCEPTIONS.
STUDENTS WHO MAY HAVE A NEED FOR DIABETIC MONITORING OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE THOSE REQUESTS GOING UP THERE.
[00:10:01]
YES, SIR. DOCTOR SHOWELL, CAN I MAKE 1 CLARIFICATION.YES. PLEASE. ON THE NEW LANGUAGE, THE NEW LANGUAGE IS THAT IT PROHIBITS THE USE OF PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES WHILE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. SO WE THE WORD BRING.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT WAS WRITTEN TO BRING OR USE.
SO BASICALLY DON'T BRING IT OR IF YOU DO, BRING IT.
YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT THE WORD BRING IS IN THE BILL.
LET'S CLARIFY THAT. DAVE, CAN YOU PULL THAT UP? ABSOLUTELY. THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE WORD EXHIBITING.
EXHIBITING OR USE. IT DOES SAY THE WORD BRINGING.
I'LL PULL THIS UP. IT SAYS PROHIBITING A STUDENT FROM BRINGING A PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY, OR DESIGNATING A METHOD FOR STORAGE OF A STUDENT'S PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE WHILE THE STUDENT IS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY.
WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU ON THURSDAY FOR FOR A VOTE AS TO HOW YOU WANT TO TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW HOUSE BILL 1481. AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
ONCE THAT CLARIFICATION IS MADE FROM THE BOARD, THEN WE WILL WRITE THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT.
WITH YOUR INTENTION. WRITE. IS THERE ANY GUIDANCE FROM TEA.
OR ANYBODY YET ON WHAT KIND OF STORAGE WOULD NEED TO BE PROVIDED IF WE DID CHOOSE THAT? NO, I DON'T THINK THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE GUIDANCE ON THE TYPE OF STORAGE, IF THAT'S WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO DO.
BUT THEY SHOULD BE COMING OUT WITH GUIDANCE ON A POLICY.
BUT THEY HAVE YET TO DO THAT. AND THEY HAVE THEY HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME TO WRITE THAT POLICY.
BUT WE START SCHOOL ON AUGUST THE 13TH. SO MANY SCHOOLS ARE HAVING TO ON THEIR OWN.
GO AHEAD AND ADOPT A POLICY. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF STORAGE WE WOULD DO IF WE DO THAT.
I MEAN, JUST AN IDEA. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M THE ONLY ONE, BUT.
YEAH, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES. YEAH.
PERFECT. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE CURRENT LANGUAGE THAT'S IN OUR STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT FOR ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION DEVICES. AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHEN STUDENTS COULD USE THEM DURING NON INSTRUCTIONAL TIMES.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE NEW LANGUAGE WHICH IS FROM THE NEW STATE LAW.
AND THAT IS ALL THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SIGNIFICANT MAJOR CHANGES TO THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT.
BUT THERE MAY BE AN INSTANCE AS A TEACHING MOMENT.
THEY MAY THEY MAY BE ALLOWED TO USE A PHONE AND STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE WE VOTED ON IT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING OUT A SITUATION. I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL OR WON'T, BUT IF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE A TEACHER HAS THE ABILITY FOR TEACHING PURPOSES TO SAY, I NEED YOU TO LOOK UP SOMETHING ON YOUR PHONE, I WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW THIS WORKS. THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED, RIGHT? AND SO THAT WOULD BE USING USING A CELL PHONE AT SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE IN DETAIL.
YES, SIR. NO. HOW ARE WE GOING TO GO ABOUT THIS? ARE WE GOING BACK THROUGH THE DEALS AND DISCUSSING EACH ONE? RIGHT. SO WE HAVE 3 POLICIES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU TONIGHT.
AFTER AFTER HE DISCUSSES THE CODE OF CONDUCT.
ALSO, I KNOW IT'S NOT ON WHAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SORRY I SAID IT LATE IN THE DAY, BUT. BUT IN THE CODE OF CONDUCT, THERE'S SOMETHING, YOU MIGHT JUST DO A WORD SEARCH FOR A BIKE.
IT SAYS NO USE OF BIKES. YES. IN OUR CODE OF CONDUCT LAST YEAR, WE DISCUSSED THIS.
[00:15:03]
AND THE ISSUE IS LANGUAGE ACTUALLY MEANS USING THE BIKE ON CAMPUS, WHAT WE AGREE TO OR WHAT WE WHAT OUR CONCERN WAS THAT WE WANT STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKE TO AND FROM SCHOOL, BUT WHEN THEY GET ON SCHOOL PROPERTY TO DISMOUNT THE BIKE AND WALK IT VERSUS RIDING IT ON, YOU KNOW, AMONGST THE CROWD. THAT WAS THE SAFETY CONCERN LAST YEAR IS THAT I THINK MR. BICKNELL TALKED ABOUT IT AND TALKING WITH SOME PRINCIPALS THAT IT BECAME A SAFETY HAZARD WITH STUDENTS RIDING THEIR BIKE IN BETWEEN TRAFFIC AND AMONGST THE STUDENTS AS THEY PUT THE BIKE INTO THE RACK. SO WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO RIDE IT, BUT WILL ACTUALLY DISMOUNT WHEN THEY GET ON CAMPUS.AND THAT'S THAT PIECE THAT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT WE ADDED IN.
YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE IT SAYS USING BIKES.
SORRY. MY LAWYER PART S COMING OUT. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO USE A BIKE? IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T OPERATE, YOU CAN'T BE OPERATING A BIKE.
I DON'T KNOW BUT. WE CAN CLARIFY THAT LANGUAGE.
WE'LL WORK ON CLARIFYING THAT. YES. YEAH. YES.
ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT CODE OF CONDUCT.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE POLICY UPDATES. OKAY.
LET'S MOVE ON. THANK YOU. OKAY, GREAT. SO THE FIRST POLICY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION ENACTED A PLETHORA OF LAWS THAT AFFECT OUR LOCAL AND LEGAL POLICIES.
AND SOME OF THOSE LAWS TAKE EFFECT PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 1ST.
AND WE DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, THE LEGISLATURE AND THE DATES OF THE SESSIONS DID NOT GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE 3 MONTH READ, DISCUSS AND ADOPT PROCESS THAT WE USUALLY USE.
THE FIRST POLICY THAT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU TONIGHT IS EFB LOCAL.
YOU'LL FIND OUT THAT THIS ONE WE ALREADY MEET THE STANDARDS.
AND SO THIS ONE SHOULD NOT BE A CHANGE FOR US.
YEAH. SO THE LIKE DOCTOR STINSON SAID THE 89TH LEGISLATURE IN SENATE BILL 13 ON ON EFB LOCAL REALLY REINFORCES ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE ALREADY DO IN BIRDVILLE ISD RELATING TO LIBRARY MATERIALS.
THERE'S A COPY OF THE BILL. I'M SORRY OF THE POLICY IN YOUR BOARD BOOK.
WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON THAT POLICY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROCUREMENT OF LIBRARY MATERIALS? YEAH. THANK YOU DAVE. YOU'VE DONE GREAT WORK WITH THAT.
WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR YEARS ALREADY.
OKAY. THE NEXT POLICY IS FD LOCAL AND IT PERTAINS TO STUDENT ACTIVITIES.
AND IT'S A REFLECTIVE OF A CONVERSATION THAT BARRY NORTON HAD WITH YOU LAST MONTH.
AND I THINK THE MONTH BEFORE REGARDING PERMISSION OR NOT FOR NON ENROLLED STUDENTS, MEANING PRIVATE, CHARTER OR HOME SCHOOL STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN UIL ACTIVITIES.
AND THAT MEANS NOT SIMPLY ATHLETICS, BUT ALSO ALL OF FINE ARTS.
AND IN FACT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGER GROUP.
SO AS YOU RECALL MISTER NORTON PRESENTED TO YOU AND RECOMMENDED THAT THAT WE NOT PERMIT NON ENROLLED STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR UIL ACTIVITIES.
SO, MR. BASKERVILLE. YES. THANK YOU. DOCTOR STINSON WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO FOLLOW UP ON COACH NORTON'S POINTS HE BROUGHT OUT IN ALLOWING NON ENROLLED STUDENTS TO ATTEND.
IT OPENS UP SOME CONCERNS. NUMBER 1, STARTING WITH SAFETY OF OVERSIGHT OF ENROLLED STUDENTS WHEN THEY'RE ON CAMPUS, BECAUSE THOSE STUDENTS WOULD BE COMING JUST FOR THAT EVENT AND THAT COMING AND GOING ON AS FAR AS CAMPUS SECURITY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE IDS, SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY IF THEY'RE A STUDENT OR NOT.
I MEAN, SO IT'S IT'S ABOUT MAINTAINING SAFETY ON OUR CAMPUSES AS WELL AS SCHEDULING CLASSES FOR UIL CLASSES, ACTUALLY A CO-CURRICULAR SOME OF THEM, AS YOU KNOW, ATHLETICS IS IN FIFTH PERIOD.
THEN YOU HAVE SOME FINE ARTS CLASSES THAT ACTUALLY TAKE TAKE PLACE THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SO THOSE STUDENTS ACTUALLY HOW WOULD THEY GET THAT EXTRA INSTRUCTION?
[00:20:05]
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A STUDENT IN THE CLASS. THEY WOULD BE COMING AFTER SCHOOL AND POSSIBLY FOR THAT THAT ONE PERIOD.BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN'T FALL IN LINE WITH THE SCHEDULING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE FOR SECURITY, SAFETY, RESPONSIBILITY AND OVERSIGHT OF STUDENTS.
THE ACCOUNTABILITY, NO OVERSIGHT OF CURRICULUM OR GRADES.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO PASS, NO PLAY. AND HOW DO WE MONITOR THAT? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN OUR SCHOOLS. THAT ACTUALLY WOULD LEAVE THE TEACHER, THE UIL TEACHER, TO BE THE SOLE SOURCE OF GRADE'S ATTENDANCE. SO IF YOU HAVE COACH SMITH AT BIRDVILLE HIGH SCHOOL HAS A STUDENT THAT'S THERE FOR FOOTBALL. THEN COACH SMITH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PERSON'S ATTENDANCE OF WHETHER THEY'RE MEETING THE ATTENDANCE CRITERIA.
RIGHT NOW, ENROLLED STUDENTS HAVE 7 TEACHERS THAT HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
LEAVING THAT UP TO ONE PERSON IS NOT FAIR TO ALL STUDENTS.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT PARITY THERE, RESOURCES, THE FEES, WE RECEIVE $1,500 BY THE TIME YOU BUY A PAIR OF SHOULDER PADS AND A HELMET, OR IN FINE ARTS, A SOUSAPHONE, THAT LEAVES YOU NO MONEY.
AND I MIGHT ADD TO ONE THING IS MISS BOWMAN CAN ATTEST TO THIS IF THAT THOSE STUDENTS, IF WE HAVE CURRENT STUDENTS THAT UNENROLL BECAUSE, HEY, THEY CAN THEY CAN SPEND THE DAY TRAINING, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE ADA ON THAT AS WELL.
THEY SHOW UP JUST FOR 5TH PERIOD OR 1ST PERIOD OF 7TH PERIOD.
THEN THEY'RE NOT OUR STUDENT. THEY WERE A STUDENT.
NOW WE LOSE THE ADA ON THAT. SO THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IS NOT THERE.
IT DOESN'T MEET THE MARK. AND THEN JUST ADDING ON THAT EQUITY AND FAIRNESS.
WE DO NOT WANT TO ROB THAT STUDENT OF THE OPPORTUNITY BY A STUDENT JUST ENROLLING AND JUST TAKING THAT SPOT FIRST CHAIR, FLUTE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES FOR THOSE MANY REASONS.
WE HAVE TO, BY LAW, OPT OUT VERSUS OPT IN. THE LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE.
I SEE MR. DAVIS ON THE PAGE. THIS IS REGARDING FM.
YES. IT SAYS STUDENTS NOT ENROLLED. THE SENTENCE IN BLUE MAKES SENSE.
WHY IS THERE A NEED FOR THAT NEXT DEAL FOR ELIGIBILITY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL STUDENT, INCLUDING HOMESCHOOL, TO PARTICIPATE IN EXTRACURRICULAR CFD? WE DON'T ALLOW IT ANYWAY, SO THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE.
THERE'S NOT AN ELIGIBILITY OF A PRIVATE SCHOOL STUDENT.
TRUE. SO WE DON'T NEED THAT SENTENCE. I DON'T THINK.
THAT THAT IS CORRECT. SO THE THE POLICY WILL BE WRITTEN AS TO HOW EVER YOU VOTE ON THURSDAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A RED LINE THROUGH THAT SINCE THEN.
OKAY. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE ANYMORE. YEAH. IF Y'ALL COULD RESEARCH NOW, BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY, AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO OTHER REASON THAT THAT SENTENCE NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.
THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD THING TO DO.
I THINK IT WAS ALSO WHENEVER COACH NORTON TALKED TO US BEFORE OTHER DISTRICTS, OTHER ATHLETIC DIRECTORS THAT HE HAD BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH, NOT JUST IN OUR AREA, BUT EVEN STATEWIDE, FELT THIS WAS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE FOR NOT JUST ATHLETICS.
WE THINK IT'S ATHLETICS AND FOOTBALL, BUT IT'S BAND AND CHOIR AND DRAMA.
I WOULD THINK MOST DISTRICTS WOULD GO THIS DIRECTION.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE 2 DISTRICTS THAT ARE WITHIN PROXIMITY OF BIRDVILLE ISD WHO ARE CONSIDERING IT. YEAH. I'LL JUST ECHO THEM BACK UP.
WHAT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SAID IT, BUT SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT ALREADY.
I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION A LOT WHERE THEY'VE COME TO ME. AND HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS? AND IT'S ONE OF THE ANSWERS THAT I DON'T LIKE GIVING THEM BECAUSE WE DISAGREE. I KNOW WHY THEY'RE COMING. AND I CAN TELL YOU I DON'T THINK IN 4 YEARS I'VE HAD ONE CONVERSATION ABOUT THEM OPEN AND ROLLING AND PLAYING ON THE FOOTBALL TEAM, EVERY CONVERSATION HAS BEEN ABOUT THEM ENROLLING SO THEY CAN BE IN THE BAND OR THEATER, OR IT'S THE FINE ARTS PORTION.
IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL OR BASEBALL. I'M SURE IT'S OUT THERE, BUT I'VE NEVER HAD THAT CONVERSATION IN FOUR YEARS. IT'S BEEN ABOUT THE FINE ARTS PROGRAMS THAT ISD OFFERS. THERE'S PLENTY OF COMMUNITY THEATER OUT THERE FOR KIDS WHO ARE HOMESCHOOLED.
IN FACT, WHEN I WORKED AT THE ARTISAN AND MOST OF THE KIDS THAT I DEALT WITH WERE HOMESCHOOL KIDS,
[00:25:08]
AND THERE'S COMMUNITY BANDS, THERE'S COMMUNITY CHOIRS.BUT BIRDVILLE AND OUR PEOPLE AND OUR RESOURCES NEED TO BE SPENT ON THE THE BODIES THAT BRING IN THAT REVENUE. CHRIS. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO I THINK I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, BUT REITERATE WE HAVE FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS TO ENHANCE ACADEMICS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT. AND I THINK THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD KEEP IT.
NON ENROLLED STUDENTS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN UIL ACTIVITIES.
WHAT ABOUT OUR ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOT UIL ACTIVITIES.
I THINK FM ADDRESSES THAT. IT'S A GREAT POINT.
I DO THINK IT'S ADDRESSED AND I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE WILL VERIFY.
YEAH, LET US KNOW WHERE THAT'S ADDRESSED. AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN WE WILL PUT IT IN HERE.
FM SAYS IT, IT SAYS A STUDENT IS IN PRIVATE SCHOOL, INCLUDING HOME SCHOOL, SHOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT IN THE DISTRICT, NOR PARTICIPATE OR PARTICIPATION IN CURRICULAR OR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.
ANY OF THOSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED EXTRACURRICULAR. IF THOSE THINGS ARE CONSIDERED EXTRACURRICULAR, THEN YEAH. I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE.
OKAY, I THINK IT'S A DEMARCATION, RIGHT? BETWEEN A SCHOOL SPONSORED EVENT, WHETHER OR WHETHER, FOR EXAMPLE, FELLOWSHIP OF CHRISTIAN ATHLETES, WHICH IS NOT, YOU HAVE A SCHOOL SPONSOR THAT OVERSEES ORGANIZATION, BUT IT'S NOT SCHOOL AFFILIATED.
RIGHT. IT'S A IT'S A PHILANTHROPIC OUTSIDE ENTITY THAT OPERATES AMONGST A HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS THAT WOULD BE OPEN, I WOULD BELIEVE TO HOMESCHOOLING PRIVATE SCHOOL PEOPLE.
BUT TO JOIN THE BOWLING TEAM PER SE, WHICH IS NOT A UIL OR THE RODEO TEAM OR THE HOCKEY TEAM.
OR GYMNASTICS. OR GYMNASTICS, LIKE, WELL, THAT'S NOT UIL.
THOSE ARE SCHOOL SPONSORED AND SANCTIONED EVENTS.
THOSE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH.
OKAY. GOOD DISCUSSION. ANYTHING ELSE ON FM? FNCE, IS FNCE IS WHAT, HOUSE BILL 1481, WHICH DOCTOR SHOWELL JUST ALLUDED TO. AND WE'LL BE BRINGING SOME INFORMATION BACK ON THAT.
I OFFER THE EXAMPLE OF A DIABETIC STUDENT THAT NEEDS TO MONITOR THEIR BLOOD SUGAR.
SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. SO THERE ARE 3 EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE PUT IN THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED TO COVER THOSE AND GOES BACK TO WHAT WILL WE SEE SOME 504 EXEMPTIONS, QUITE POSSIBLY, THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED.
UNDERSTANDING THE THE PROBLEMS THAT OR THE CONCERNS THAT THAT WOULD BRING.
SO IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF FREE FOR ALL.
SO THE HOUSE BILL 1481 CREATED CREATED THE LAW AND THE POLICY DIRECTED US TO CREATE THE POLICY.
THIS IS NOT A BISD REGULATION. THIS IS A LAW ENACTED IN THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
AND, AND HAS DIRECTED SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO ADOPT POLICY REGARDING THAT.
SO WE ARE THE POSITIVE IS THAT IN BISD, AS DR.
SHOWELL STATED, WE HAVE BEEN PRACTICING THIS REGULATION ALREADY KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 8TH GRADE WITH CELL PHONE POLICIES ON CAMPUSES.
SO IT WILL NOT BE NEW FOR ANYONE IN THAT GRADE LEVEL OR ANYONE ENTERING THE CURRENT 9TH GRADE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE DO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAS HAS BEEN PRACTICING THIS AS WELL.
SO IT WILL BE NEW FOR SOME OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY 10TH, 11TH AND 12TH GRADERS.
BUT WE WE WE VOW TO HELP THE ADMINISTRATION AND CREATE CONSISTENT POLICIES AND PRACTICES AMONGST
[00:30:10]
ALL CAMPUSES AND DO THIS IN A FAIR WAY. AND I KNOW OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON A CAMPAIGN, AND WE WILL CERTAINLY GET INFORMATION OUT TO STUDENTS AND PARENTS VERY QUICKLY.AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS AS PAINLESS AS POSSIBLE.
WE WOULD ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS. DAVE. TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT TECHNOLOGY WE PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS.
ARE THEY ABLE? WHAT IS IT THAT WE GIVE? WHAT TABLET OR.
RIGHT, SO WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE A CHROMEBOOK. A CHROMEBOOK.
FOR OUR SECONDARY STUDENTS. CAN THEY LOOK UP INFORMATION ON A CHROMEBOOK.
SO IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, EVEN AT STARBUCKS, THEY'RE STILL CONTENT FILTERED.
THEY CAN BROWSE THE INTERNET. THEY CAN GET TO ALL OF THEIR INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS, ALL OF THEIR COMMUNICATION TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH TEACHERS ARE ACCESSIBLE THERE. AND THEN IT'S ALSO WHAT WE USE FOR STATE TESTING AND DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY THROUGH SCHOOL TECHNOLOGY TO ACCESS INFORMATION.
YES, SIR. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ON THEIR CELL PHONES, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. CALVIN, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT SUBJECT, CAN I ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT ON THAT OR ASK DAVE THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
SURE. COACHES AND, I KNOW WHEN OUR KIDS WERE THEIR COACHES AND OTHERS WOULD COMMUNICATE THROUGH, LIKE, GROUPME OR THINGS LIKE THAT AGAIN. AND I DON'T KNOW, THIS ANSWER WAS, DOES THAT ALSO COME THROUGH YOUR CHROMEBOOK? SO THOSE ARE OFTEN EITHER WEBSITES THAT THEY HAVE OR AN APP THAT CAN BE AVAILABLE.
THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO WORK ON AS A DISTRICT AS PROBABLY A RESULT OF THIS LAW, REALLY TO HELP CREATE, IN MY OPINION, SOME STANDARDIZATION, BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, GOT MULTIPLE TEACHERS.
THERE'S MULTIPLE AVENUES THAT THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.
AND SO MISS OVERMAN AND I HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING SOME OPTIONS AS A DISTRICT THAT WE MIGHT EXPLORE DOWN THE ROAD TO REALLY STANDARDIZE AND MAKE THAT EASIER FOR OUR STUDENTS TO HAVE ONE COMMUNICATION PLATFORM, NO MATTER HOW MANY TEACHERS THEY'RE COMMUNICATING WITH.
THAT'S GOOD. BUT KELVIN, LIKE I KNOW THAT LIKE, IF SOCCER PRACTICE, IF IT'S TOO HOT THAT DAY OR IF THEY'RE NEEDING THEM, THEY'RE NEEDING TO GET THE BUS EARLY BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THEIR SCHEDULE AND THEY HAD TO MOVE IT UP. THEY'LL BLAST OUT A GROUP, MEET EVERYBODY AND THE KIDS THEN NO, LOOK, I'M NOT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN. I'M NOT, I'M NOT. I UNDERSTAND.
I MEAN, I'M GLAD YOU'RE ON IT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY TIME.
I THINK I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW, LIKE ONCE YOU PUT THAT OUT, ALL THE COACHES, AND WHEN EVERYBODY COMES BACK, COACHES, CHOIR DIRECTORS, EVERYBODY THAT THAT HAS TO DO ALL THAT STUFF NEEDS TO TELL THEM.
AND AND IT ALSO THEN NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE ON THEIR CELL PHONE FOR AFTER SCHOOL HOURS, WHEN THEY'RE AT THE TRACK EVENT AND SOMETHING CHANGES AND THEY NEED TO BLAST EVERYBODY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THEIR LAPTOP. THEY NEED THEIR PHONE. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE.
AS I UNDERSTAND THE LAW, IS DURING THE SCHOOL DAY.
YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE CROSS PLATFORMS TOO.
YOU CAN'T JUST SAY IT'S GOING TO BE A WEB BASED, YOU KNOW, THING.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING. NOT JUST CHROME FRIENDLY. RIGHT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WHEN THEY'RE AT THE TRACK MEET, WHEN THEY'RE AT THE WHATEVER BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT WEEKEND AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING ORGANIZED.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF TIME. I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY, I THINK, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW COACHES, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO DO IT THIS YEAR. IF YOU TELL THEM YOU CAN'T SEND THEM STUFF DURING SCHOOL DAY.
MY QUESTION WAS, BACK IN THE 80S OR 70S WHEN YOU WERE IN SCHOOL, HOW DID THE COACHES DO IT BACK THEN? IT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY TO THAT IS MY KIDS WEREN'T ALIVE BACK THEN, AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEY'RE NOT. AND PARENTS AND KIDS DON'T ACCEPT THAT AS AN ANSWER. I THINK WE, KELVIN, I'M NOT SAYING PLEASE DO NOT READ INTO ME SAYING THAT THAT I'M SAYING WE NEED TO GET THE PHONES BACK IN THE CLASSROOM.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT. NOT NOT NOT SAYING THAT.
MY KIDS NEVER COMMUNICATE ON A COMPUTER. EVER, EVER, EVER.
JUST I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. IT HAS TO POP UP ON THE PHONE AND HAS.
[00:35:05]
IT'S GOING TO CHANGE FOR THEM. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S OUT THERE, SURELY WE'RE NOT THE FIRST ONES THAT HAVE THOUGHT OF THIS THROUGH THEIR SON.THERE'S SOME COMMUNICATION TOOLS BUILT INTO FOCUS THAT WILL BLAST THAT OUT.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE SOME TOOLS IN PLACE THAT WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO.
WHAT'S THE BEST MESSAGE TO GET OUT? BUT WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHERE WE LAND WITH THIS LAW.
NOW, TEA IS SUPPOSED TO PUT OUT A MODEL POLICY.
I DO BELIEVE THAT'S NOT GOING TO COME UNTIL MID-AUGUST.
BASED ON WHAT TEA SAID. BUT PART OF THIS LAW DOES REQUIRE THEM TO RELEASE A MODEL POLICY.
RIGHT. AND I THINK THIS IS A, JOE YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT.
I MEAN, I HAVE I HAVE A CHILD WHO PARTICIPATES IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE ARE APPS SPECIFIC TO, LET'S SAY, SPORTSYOU, WHERE THERE ARE OFTEN MESSAGES TO THE STUDENTS ON THAT. AND SO I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE THAT THE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, DID NOT DISCUSS. SO WE WILL, WE, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE LAW STATES WHAT IT STATES AND WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ON, ON DEVICES. AND IT SAYS ALL COMMUNICATION DEVICES, ALL PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES, ANYTHING THAT IS NOT SCHOOL ISSUED.
SO THAT IS A TELEPHONE. THAT'S A PERSONAL LAPTOP.
THAT'S A SMARTWATCH. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE DISALLOWED.
SO YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION FOR BISD IS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE USED DURING THE DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. WHERE, WE KNOW THAT THE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO NEED THEM.
THEY NEED THEM BEFORE SCHOOL. THEY NEED THEM AFTER SCHOOL FOR COMMUNICATION WITH PARENTS, ETC..
SO YOU KNOW, THE REAL QUESTION IS, WHERE DO THEY KEEP THEM? RIGHT. WELL. AND SO, I IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'VE GOT TO, WE DO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME STUDYING THIS AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEBATE PROS AND CONS OF THE POUCHES OR THE, THE SHOE BAGS OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM. BUT YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF DISTRICTS THAT WE'VE TALKED TO STUDENTS ARE BEING ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIR DEVICES IN THEIR BACKPACKS. SO IT'S WITH THEM.
AND THEY KEEP IT WITH THEM. THEY JUST DON'T USE IT IN CLASS.
THEY DON'T PULL IT OUT AND USE IT IN CLASS. AND WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THAT ITEM IS TURNED OFF.
THAT CELL PHONE IS TURNED OFF IN THE BACKPACK.
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. IT'S TURNED OFF. IT DOESN'T MAKE NOISE.
IT DOESN'T BUZZ, IT DOESN'T VIBRATE. IT'S TURNED OFF.
BUT IT'S IN THEIR BACKPACK. SO AS THE SCHOOL'S OVER THEY CAN TURN IT ON.
RIGHT. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE. JUST FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, WHY IS THE POLICY WE HAVE NOW? IS THAT NOT GOOD ENOUGH? AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS LIKE I'VE LIVED IN A WORLD LIKE, I'M NOT VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THIS.
WE LEFT THEM IN A LOCKER OUTSIDE BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T HAVE.
I LIVE IN A WORLD NOW WHERE IF YOU WORK CERTAIN VIOLATIONS, YOU'RE IN A SKIFF, WHICH IS A TOP SECRET ROOM, AND EVERYBODY LEAVES THEIR PHONES OUTSIDE OF THAT OFFICE, AND SOMEHOW THEY SURVIVE AN ENTIRE WORKDAY.
WE NEED TO PICK UP MILK ON THE WAY HOME, RIGHT.
LIKE THIS IS, TO ME, THIS IS KIND OF A NOTHING BURGER.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD, TO ME, I THINK CELL PHONES OUT OF THE CLASSROOM IS A GOOD DEAL, BUT KIDS HAVING THEM IN THE CAFETERIA IN THE HALLWAY IS OKAY, AND IT SOLVES THE ISSUE OF COACHES TEXTING THEM AND CHANGE OF PLANS.
I GUESS I DON'T KNOW TOTALLY WHERE WE'RE AT. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD POLICY. ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN THAT POLICY? SO THE INTENT OF THE LAW, ACCORDING TO THE ATTORNEYS, THE INTENT OF THE LAW IS THAT THERE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE ON CAMPUS DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, AND THAT INCLUDES LUNCH AND PASSING PERIODS AND FOR OUR STUDENTS.
THAT IS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE, IS LUNCH AND PASSING PERIODS.
AND WE DON'T HAVE, THEY'RE NOT GIVING US THE LOCAL AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WE HEAR YOU,
[00:40:05]
KIND OF LIKE THE WHOLE OPT IN, OPT OUT THING.RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT AUTONOMY? ACCORDING TO OUR ATTORNEYS, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT.
OKAY. THEN HOW WE MONITOR THEM? YEAH. I MEAN.
WE HAVE SIX ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS AT OUR LARGEST HIGH SCHOOL WITH UPWARDS OF ALMOST 3000 STUDENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO CHECK EVERYBODY'S, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DURING LUNCH, OR DURING A PASSING PERIOD. WE CERTAINLY CAN CONTROL IT IN THE CLASSROOMS AND SHOULD.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK OUR ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS TO SPEND THEIR DAY CHECKING FOR DEVICES DURING PASSING PERIODS OR LUNCH.
ADD ONE THING, AND DAVE ALLUDED TO THIS. SO THE LAWS WERE PASSED.
THE POLICIES WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE MOCKUPS OF SOMETHING TO GET US BY.
TASB HASN'T RELEASED THE POLICIES FOR THIS. THE SOONEST IT WILL COME WILL BE UPDATE 126.
THE. SKIP, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. SO OUR CHOICES ARE TO GO AHEAD AND START SCHOOL ON AUGUST THE 13TH WITH THE RULES IN PLACE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE RULES ARE COMING FROM TEA SOMETIME MID AUGUST, OR TO START SCHOOL WITHOUT THE RULES, AND THEN HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THE RULES A WEEK LATER, WHICH WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.
AND I'M SORRY I DID STEAL TIME AWAY FROM MR. DILKS.
I MEAN, IT'S STILL KIND OF HIS FLOOR. HE GRACIOUSLY ALLOWED ME TO.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT I TALKED TO TEACHERS THAT IMPLEMENTED, THAT WERE IN THE DISTRICT, FORMER STUDENTS AND MINE, FORMER COWORKERS OF MINE THAT WERE IN A DISTRICT THAT IMPLEMENTED THIS POLICY, THAT THEY WOULD TURN THEM OFF.
KEEP THEM IN THEIR BACKPACKS ALL DAY. AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF HAVING THEM OUT ESCALATED.
AND BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO THE END OF THE CONSEQUENCES, YOU WERE IN DEEP.
AND THEY SAID AT FIRST IT WAS A NIGHTMARE TO BRING THE STUDENTS INTO COOPERATION WITH THIS POLICY. BUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, A SCHOOL THAT HAD OVER 3000 KIDS HAD ONLY LIKE 30 PROBLEMS A DAY. NOW, THAT'S NOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THAT'S LIKE 1% OF YOUR POPULATION.
BUT THEY SAID, THE TEACHER SAID, THE RESULT OF THIS POLICY WAS ASTRONOMICAL WITH STUDENT PARTICIPATION AND STUDENT ATTENTION IN THE CLASSROOM. AND AS A FORMER EDUCATOR MYSELF, I COULD ALWAYS SEE KIDS, IF THEY WERE LOOKING DOWN LIKE THAT IN MY CLASSROOM.
I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING. I DIDN'T ALLOW CELL PHONES IN MY ROOM.
I MEAN, THERE WASN'T ANY USE FOR THEM BECAUSE WE WERE TOO BUSY.
AND THE GREATEST THING A TEACHER CAN DO IS GIVE THEM ALL THE THINGS THEY CAN.
AND THE GREATEST THING A STUDENT CAN DO IS GIVE THAT TEACHER BACK THAT ATTENTION.
AND THAT'S WHAT, WE'RE BY IMPLEMENTING A STRONG POLICY WITH STRONG CONSEQUENCES.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, I CONTACTED TEACHERS. I JUST SAY, TELL ME WHAT YOUR OPINION IS.
YOU DON'T. I'M NOT ASKING YOU, YOU HAVE TO RESOLVE THIS.
I'M SAYING, DO YOU THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE STUDENTS WITH CELL PHONES IN THE ROOM OR STUDENTS WITHOUT? NOT THAT WE EVEN HAVE THAT CHOICE ANYMORE, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR.
ALL THE TEACHERS, AND I'M TALKING SUCCESSFUL TEACHERS THAT I TALKED TO SAID BY FAR THAT HAVING THAT CELL PHONE OUT OF THE ROOM WAS THE BEST POLICY. CINDY RICHMOND, WHO TURNED OUT, WHAT WAS IT, 98% AP PASSING RATE THIS LAST YEAR, JUST RETIRED.
[00:45:01]
THEY HAD A, SHE HAD A COFFEE CAN ON EACH TABLE AND THEY DIDN'T USE THEIR CELL PHONES.AND 98% AP PRETTY WELL SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. SO THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO SAY.
OKAY, MR. DAVIS, YOU HAD SOMETHING. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS, I THINK, THAT WE ONCE WE ADOPT THIS POLICY ON THURSDAY, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, HEY, DURING THE CLASS DAY, IT'S GOING TO BE TURNED OFF IN YOUR BACKPACK.
SOME EMERGENCY, YEAH, YOU CAN USE THEM. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IS IN MATT SUNDAY SCHOOL CLASS, HIS SON COMES IN. HEY, I HEARD THE KIDS OVER AT RICHLAND THEY COULD TAKE THEIRS OUT AT LUNCH.
WE CAN'T, AT BIRDVILLE. I'M SAYING CONSISTENCY HAS GOT TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD THAT, BECAUSE ONE, AND TEACHERS NEED TO KNOW CONSISTENCY HAS TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD.
IF THEY NEED TO DO THE RESEARCH, THEY CAN DO IT JUST ON THE CHROMEBOOK AS THEY CAN THEIR PHONE.
THAT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE. ONE, THEY LEARN THE POLICIES IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
IT'LL PASS RIGHT ONTO HIGH SCHOOL. NO BIG DEAL.
TURN THEM OFF. PUT IN YOUR BACKPACK. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. THAT IT WORKS.
NOW THE CONSEQUENCE IS HOW YOU IMPLEMENT THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS.
THAT'S WHERE YOU WORK THAT KIND OF STUFF OUT.
IS THAT AN APPLE WATCH THERE JOE? THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
PUT YOUR PHONE UP AND TURN IT OFF. THAT'S AN EASY SOLUTION.
IF I DO THE KID THE SAME THING THE NEXT PERIOD, THEN I GOT A PROBLEM.
WE'LL GO A LONG WAY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR SOME.
MY LITTLE JOHNNY NEEDS HIS PHONE. I NEED TO GET AHOLD OF HIM DURING THE DAY.
NO. I'M ALMOST. I'M SORRY. YOU NEED TO CALL THE OFFICE.
MY ANSWER TO THEM IS THE STATE SAID IT'S VERY CLEAR, DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, THEY DO NOT HAVE PHONES.
WE'RE LETTING THEM HAVING THEIR BACKPACK, TURNED OFF.
SO WE GOT TO BE READY FOR SOME OF THE BACKLASH.
BUT DON'T FORGET, THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE THINGS AUSTIN DID IT.
WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE FAIR ABOUT IT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCTIVE ABOUT IT. WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME KIDS, THEY'LL GET USED TO IT.
JUST TAKE SOME CHANGE. BUT IT'LL HAPPEN. AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN BIRDVILLE ANYWHERE PRE-K THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE, THIS HAS BEEN YOUR LIFE ALREADY. IT'S NOT NEW, SO IT WON'T BE A SHOCK.
RIGHT. AND ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING SOME FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION LIST THAT WILL GO THROUGH EVERY QUESTION THAT WE CAN IMAGINE, WE WILL BE ASKED, AND MORE SO. AND OPPORTUNITIES, LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES VIA OUR SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE AND COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO KNOW ABOUT THIS PRIOR TO THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.
AS A BOARD THOUGH, WE JUST HAVE A CLEAR DECISION TO MAKE HERE, RIGHT? EITHER THEY DON'T BRING IT OR WE PROVIDE A STORAGE PLACE.
I MEAN, THAT'S OUR DECISION. THE STATE MADE THE DECISION.
AND TO ADOPT WHAT'S IN BLUE RIGHT NOW. IN FACT ON PAGE ONE OF TWO OF THAT PARTICULAR POLICY, I THINK WE'RE MISSING A WORD RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
AND IT GOES DOWN TO THE NEXT WORD, JUST MAYBE.
NOT RETRIEVED OR NOT. SO I DID THE SAME THING TODAY.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT RIGHT, THEY'RE NOT. ARE NOT RETRIEVED, MAYBE DISPOSED.
I DROPPED INTO MAYBE OVER TO THE LEFT. YEAH. IT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE.
YES. YEAH, AND ON THAT, AT THE VERY FIRST, THE POLICY IS MR. DREES. IT SAYS SHALL STORE ANY PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS.
SO IT DOESN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE STORAGE UNITS FOR THEM.
IT'S JUST THAT'S TO BE IN, AND I ASSUME, YOU KNOW, I ASSUME THAT A POCKET, A PURSE, A BACKPACK, THINGS LIKE THAT, ANYTHING OUT OF SIGHT IS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT.
ALSO, AGAIN, I HATE TO KEEP SAYING THIS, BUT AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT, PARTICULARLY THE TEACHERS IN RICHLAND HIGH AND BIRDVILLE HIGH NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THEIR CLASSROOM ANYMORE.
[00:50:05]
I'M SURE THEY'RE GETTING. THEY'RE GOING TO LEARN THAT QUICKLY AND AND LEARN THAT CAN'T BE A PART OF THEIR CLASSROOM ANYMORE.YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, THERE ARE A PLETHORA AGAIN, OF POLICIES.
THIS IS ONE THAT THAT DOES NEED TO BE COMMUNICATED IMMEDIATELY.
AND MEGAN IS, IS READY TO DO THAT. AND WHEN YOU'RE TRAINING THEM BACK TO WHAT MR. DAVIS SAID, AND THAT'S ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS TOO, IS INCONSISTENCIES.
IF A TEACHER KIND OF GOES, HEY, LOOK, WE'RE THROUGH IT, WE'RE IF ONCE YOU'RE THROUGH AT THE TEST TODAY, IF YOU WANT TO SIT THERE QUIETLY ON YOUR CELL PHONE, JUST THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
MAYBE THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM IN THE PAST. IF SOMEBODY WAS ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE TEST MORE QUICKLY THAN THE OTHER STUDENTS SO THEY DON'T BOTHER THEM, I JUST CAN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAYING, WELL, WE GET TO LOOK AT OUR PHONES OVER THERE.
PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHTS. I HAVE THE RIGHT. RIGHT.
SO THIS IS IT'S SO ODD TO ME THAT I'M LIKE, IF YOU THINK THAT YOUR KID'S EDUCATION IS BEING IMPAIRED BY BRINGING A CELL PHONE, TELL YOUR KID NOT TO BRING THEIR CELL PHONE. YOU TAKE IT UP EVERY MORNING AND YOU GIVE IT TO THEM AFTER SCHOOL IS OVER. YOU'RE A PARENT. THAT'S YOUR KID. YOU MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND IF I'M A PARENT, I DON'T THINK IT'S HURTING THE KID'S EDUCATION.
WELL, THEN I'LL SEND IT ON. I'LL SEND THEM ON TO THE.
BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T SAY ALL PARENTS WILL HAVE TO PAY A FINE.
THEY PUT THE ONUS ON US TO MAKE SURE KIDS DON'T HAVE IT.
I'M LIKE, WAIT, I THOUGHT THIS WAS PARENT RESPONSIBILITY.
AND WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING OUT PARENT RESPONSIBILITY.
AND BUT THAT'S NOT, IT'S ONLY WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO SAY, YEAH.
SEE THE ONLY REASON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCALS BECAUSE YOU CONTROL THAT LEGAL HASN'T COME OUT.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE IN 126 THIS PART WILL BE IN LEGAL.
SO USUALLY WE HAVE LEGAL AND LOCAL COMING TOGETHER.
BUT BECAUSE TASB HASN'T DONE LEGAL YET, WE'RE HAVING TO ADDRESS IT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
SO IN 126 COMES OUT IT'LL BE CLEAR. AS DR. STINSON SAID, THIS IS A LEGAL POLICY THAT'S BEING PUT.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T PUT IT IN POLICY. WE ARE BEGINNING SCHOOL PRIOR TO THEM RELEASING THE LEGAL POLICY? YES. SO WE ARE HAVING TO CREATE A LOCAL POLICY.
RIGHT. THAT WE THINK BEST MIMICS THE LEGAL POLICY THAT'S SURELY SOON TO BE ON OUR DESK.
QUICK QUESTION, UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS, WILL THERE BE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS OFF AND IN, NOT VISIBLE OR OFFER IN YOUR BACKPACK OR IN YOUR POCKET OR YOUR PURSE? THE BIG KEYWORD, I WOULD MAKE SURE IT'S TURNED OFF BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT, I CAN'T GET AROUND KIDS.
IT'S DING DING DING. IT'S VERY ANNOYING, VERY DISTRACTING.
AND ALL THE ABOVE IF THEY DON'T TURN THEM OFF.
YEAH, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. AND THERE'S EVEN, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE THAT EVEN A LITTLE FURTHER IT'S LIKELY THAT WE PREFER THE LANGUAGE OF A BACKPACK OR A PURSE VERSUS YOUR POCKET, BECAUSE IF IT'S IN YOUR POCKET, IT CAN VIBRATE.
AND SO LIKELY WE WILL WRITE THAT TO BE IN A BACKPACK OR A PURSE.
AND ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN YOUR POCKET AND IT VIBRATES EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MAKING A NOISE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DISTRACTING YOU FROM THE LEARNING THAT. AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF, OF THE OF THE LAW.
AND SO AGAIN, THAT WAS THEIR PURPOSE OF SAYING NO SMARTWATCHES.
HEY, GUYS, THIS WAS GREAT DISCUSSION. VERY GOOD DISCUSSION.
[00:55:03]
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING. FIRST I'VE SEEN OF IT, MR. KUNKEL. SO WE WILL SEE WHAT LEGAL POLICY STATES WHEN IT COMES OUT.AND ENSURE THAT YOU ALL STAY INFORMED OF HOW IT'S WORKING.
I GUESS THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW OR IT WOULDN'T BE IN THERE, RIGHT? AS WE SEE IT NOW. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THURSDAY NIGHT AND TAKING ACTION ON THESE POLICIES.
OUR REGULAR MEETING IS THURSDAY NIGHT HERE IN THE BOARD ROOM 5:30.
[G. FUTURE BOARD MEETINGS]
CLOSED SESSION, 7:00. OPEN SESSION. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER BUSINESS.SO HEARING SAYING THAT, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS. SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECOND. MR. DREES, IT IS 7:36 P.M., AND WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.